Cats killing billions?

[swotty]

Jeez ! don't you lot ever get bored of repeating yourselves ?

We all know BR hates cats and will continually tell anyone unlucky or stupid enough to be within sight of a screen when he launches into another tirade.

Guy's ....get over it.

Well said that man....and based on Elen's statistics I think the 4 billion increase in the human population over the last 50years would have caused far more impact on the planet as a whole. Scarey to think what will be the outcome if humans continue to breed the way we are at present!

 

[nuggets]

Why is it ringing in my ears that Cats actually do very little damage to bird populations? Remember it coming from a credible source? Was surprised my self.
Dont get me wrong certainly not a fan of the lovely little things. :AR15firin .. but rings a bell this, no pun intended.

proof please ?? a dead mouse on ya door step = a barn owl going hungry !!

 

[nuggets]

Well said that man....and based on Elen's statistics I think the 4 billion increase in the human population over the last 50years would have caused far more impact on the planet as a whole. Scarey to think what will be the outcome if humans continue to breed the way we are at present!

so how many humans do ya know that kill birds and mice on a daily basis ???

 

[Cheesy Blender]

so how many humans do ya know that kill birds and mice on a daily basis ???

my mate works for Rentokill.

 

[Robbi]

thousands of pest control operatives....why ?

 

[Expat]

I say forget cigarettes..... BAN CATS.....!!

 

[Toddy]

The last cat thread debunked this. It actually quoted the RSPB who admitted that they'd overestimated because they didn't actually know.

Folks, most of us are a bit fed up of the anti cat stories......could we maybe do an anti sheep one, just for a bit of a change ? or goats? do you know that the world wide population of goats has soared, and their incessant chomping has created the expanse that is the sahara and is effectively stripping the drier bits of the world ?
How about cattle ? their need to feed, to be turned into hamburger mush is wiping out vast acerages in S. America, to say nothing of Africa.

Dog dirt though..............see those cretins who bag it and then throw the bags into bushes and trees........I really want to redecorate their gardens with the nasty little offerings.

Okay, rant over. I'm going to put the kettle on
M

 

[nuggets]

thousands of pest control operatives....why ?

name them

 

[dwardo]

proof please ?? a dead mouse on ya door step = a barn owl going hungry !!

Like I say surprising. http://www.rspb.org.uk/advice/gardening/unwantedvisitors/cats/birddeclines.aspx

Amazing little hunters have to give them that. I dont like them one bit but seems there is little or no evidence.

 

[British Red]

based on Elen's statistics I think the 4 billion increase in the human population over the last 50years would have caused far more impact on the planet as a whole. Scarey to think what will be the outcome if humans continue to breed the way we are at present!

You won't get any disagreement from me on that one. But its another thing that no-one is prepared to take any real action on

 

[swotty]

so how many humans do ya know that kill birds and mice on a daily basis ???

I think I said that they "would have caused far more impact on the planet as a whole" don't remember saying about them killing birds and mice but since you haven't mentioned specifics ie. songbirds, I guess the human race get through a fair few chickens daily, mice in the house tend to get killed (unless you are extremely tolerant) used to be in a pheasant syndicate myself up until a couple of years ago so have killed a few pheasants, ducks the occasional woodcock.....

 

[swotty]

You won't get any disagreement from me on that one. But its another thing that no-one is prepared to take any real action on

I have an idea that the Chinese may have tried to control the birth rate a little while ago by penalising couples having more than one child, I don't think it was a popular decision!

 

[British Red]

I have an idea that the Chinese may have tried to control the birth rate a little while ago by penalising couples having more than one child, I don't think it was a popular decision!

I don't think it was either....I'm not sure ignoring the problem is the right thing to do either though

I guess it would become a political discussion and more than a little off topic (although interesting) to discuss it though

 

[swotty]

I don't think it was either....I'm not sure ignoring the problem is the right thing to do either though

I guess it would become a political discussion and more than a little off topic (although interesting) to discuss it though

I agree on all of those statements!

 

[santaman2000]

I think I said that they "would have caused far more impact on the planet as a whole" don't remember saying about them killing birds and mice but since you haven't mentioned specifics ie. songbirds, I guess the human race get through a fair few chickens daily, mice in the house tend to get killed (unless you are extremely tolerant) used to be in a pheasant syndicate myself up until a couple of years ago so have killed a few pheasants, ducks the occasional woodcock.....

Yes but none of those species are endangered as a result are they?

 

[Andy BB]

Passenger pigeon?

 

[santaman2000]

I have an idea that the Chinese may have tried to control the birth rate a little while ago by penalising couples having more than one child, I don't think it was a popular decision!

Yes and now they're reaping the "benefits?" Because of that policy the proportion of their population being senior citizens is rapidly increasing. More pensioners and fewer workering age.

 

[santaman2000]

Passenger pigeon?

Agreed there are some species extint because of man. But the post I was referring to referred to agricultural species. Not likely we're going to kill domesticated animals into extinction.

 

[bb07]

Folks, most of us are a bit fed up of the anti cat stories......could we maybe do an anti sheep one, just for a bit of a change ? or goats? do you know that the world wide population of goats has soared, and their incessant chomping has created the expanse that is the sahara and is effectively stripping the drier bits of the world ?
How about cattle ? their need to feed, to be turned into hamburger mush is wiping out vast acerages in S. America, to say nothing of Africa.

Dog dirt though..............see those cretins who bag it and then throw the bags into bushes and trees........I really want to redecorate their gardens with the nasty little offerings.


M

You've made some very valid points. All creatures have their good and bad qualities, including humans
And antagonizing people over their choice of pets was not my intention. For the record, although I am a dog owner, I do actually like cats as well.
If this thread results in tempers flaring, please lock it before things get out of hand.

 

[santaman2000]

I think I said that they "would have caused far more impact on the planet as a whole" don't remember saying about them killing birds and mice but since you haven't mentioned specifics ie. songbirds, I guess the human race get through a fair few chickens daily, mice in the house tend to get killed (unless you are extremely tolerant) used to be in a pheasant syndicate myself up until a couple of years ago so have killed a few pheasants, ducks the occasional woodcock.....

It can also be argued that since cats (at least the individual species we're discussing) is a "domesticated" animal, that any damage they do is also manmade damage. The species onl exists and spread throughout the world because of us.