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Asbo

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Aug 30, 2010
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Hey My name is William i am currently at school and i am very interested in a career in the outdoors but i don't know if what i should be looking for i love bushcraft but i am also a keen kayker canoe hiker camper basicly anything outdoors but im not sure if i should go in to IT a subject that i am also verry keen on that im doing verry well in.

Was wondering what sort of thing i could do in the outdoors for a career and what sort of pay it would be.

thanks for your help,
Yis
ASBO
 

bri66

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Feb 17, 2009
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Hi I've worked as a climbing instructor for about 15 yrs,I'm never going to be rich from it but you have a good life,plenty of time off,still enjoy my work,great social life,Brian
 

Limaed

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Apr 11, 2006
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Hi William,

Its quite difficult getting into any industry without skills and qualifications and experience yet you can't get skills, experience and qualifictions without being employed! The path to outdoor experience dosn't happen overnight but some companies will take on you on 'Earn and learn' schemes obviously the pay isn't great and much of the work is seasonal but you'll be building up a good foundation and often the centres are residential for employee's.
No doubt your thinking 'where do I find out about these jobs?' a really good site is http://www.bluedome.co.uk/jobs/jobs.htm

Glenmore Lodge and Plas-Y-Brenin (The National Mountain Training Centres) offer the 'Night Porter' scheme where you work at the centres in admin roles but get to go out and act as clients to prospective instructors whilst they are being assesed. Its a great way to build up experience from some of the best instructors in the country
www.glenmorelodge.org.uk or www.pyb.co.uk however the competition is very fierce.

Have a think about joining up, the military is still a good route into the outdoor world whether you do it through the Adventurous Training or as a part of your trade. Everyone in the Forces has the chance to do AT and many of the career paths like being a Physical Training Instructor will gain you a huge amount of experience and qualifications.
 

Shewie

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Dec 15, 2005
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Bri666 makes a good point, you'll never be rich working in the outdoors, but depending on what you want in life, you'll more likely be happier.

I've been in IT long enough to know there's plenty of money in it, you can have the nice house and car, all the toys, gizmos and gucci kit you could ever want, but if you spend all your career looking out of the office window wishing you were out there instead, it'll do your head in eventually.

It's a tough one to call, one route maybe to go for the IT plan and get some qualifications behind you, get yourself setup with a decent job and then make plans for a change while you're young enough. Bushcraft schools look for life experience as well as knowledge, you can travel and have some adventures whilst learning some skills whilst your raking it in with the IT role.

One other tip ...

Stay single for as long as you can, once you get wed all you're aspirations go out the window.

It's good that your asking the question now rather than twenty years down the line, best if luck with it anyway, whichever road you go down.
 

wattsy

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Dec 10, 2009
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i worked for a company called manor adventure for a year doing outdoor activities with kids it was good fun they've just opened a new centre in scotland as well. didn't need any qualifications just be willing to learn they give you at least 2 NGB's i got GNAS archery leader and BFA teaching certificate
 

Asbo

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Aug 30, 2010
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Fareham, Hampshire, UK
Thanks every one for your reply's and i love the outdoors so ill do some more resurch in to it :p and ill visit the links that you have posted they look good :d
thanks
 

Tiley

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Oct 19, 2006
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Another thing worth asking yourself is this: do I just love activities in the outdoors or am I genuinely interested in teaching/instructing folk in the outdoors? It's important because you will obviously spend a good deal of your time paddling and bushcrafting at a level below what lights your fire and you run the danger of losing the passion for your play as well as your work. Like it or loathe it, you do need to have something that you feel you can pursue for yourself, for your own pleasure, especially when you start work and time becomes more scarce.

You're very lucky to be interested in IT - a huge and developing industry, where talented people are called on to help out incompetents like me! Go for that to start with and use your leisure time to accumulate experience and adventures in the woods and on the water before having another look at things a little bit further down the line.

Just a bit of advice from a cussed old idiot.
 

Dogoak

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Jan 24, 2009
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There are some very good points made here. As others have said, pay can be a problem, certainly in your first years. Offset this with the fact that you probably won't even be thinking about a house etc; you will possibly 'live in' so no rent to pay, days off will be spent with other instructors playing on the river or hanging off the crag, it won't be a bad experience.

IMHO get as much experience as you can in as many outdoor subjects as you can, join clubs, groups etc now while you are still at school. Then get as many qualifications as you can and pursue them to the highest level. As with most jobs, the more highly skilled and specialist you are, the better the pay (I don't know many MIA's who are short of work or money!). Also try to get work in parts of the country/or centres that have clients all year, when I was younger a lot of small centres down south didn't operate during the winter.

Glenmore and the Brenin have been mentioned, these and similar forward thinking centres are good way to go. Again experience and enthusiasim will go a long way towards them considering you.

Oh, and the most important quali you will need is your driving licence!

Good luck with whatever you decide and enjoy every moment.
 

Paul K

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Apr 29, 2003
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William

If I could give you some advice based on my experience of having, for a while, followed the fairly typical path of school, degree, office job and later making a career change into working outdoors…

1/ Follow your passion. But don’t use your passion for the outdoors as an excuse not to do well at school. A good education and qualifications are never wasted. Also, these days, it’s much better not to be a one-trick pony. Look at this website for instance – bushcraft and IT combined.

2/ Write off to all the reputable bushcraft schools to find out what their recruitment policy is – When do they recruit? How do you apply? When should you apply? Is there a minimum age? Are there any pre-requisites? Are there any nice-to-haves (like a food hygiene certificate) that would make you stand out? Have someone proof-read your letter for spelling mistakes, etc. Even if you are too young to start work for a few years, there is still a lot you can do in the meantime:

3/ Get some work experience with a bushcraft school. Do this either through the official work experience channels at your school or by contacting bushcraft companies yourself. What better way to spend some of your summer holidays? Make sure they are CRB checked though.

4/ Get plenty of experience looking after yourself in the outdoors. Don’t force it though. Just enjoy being outdoors. Camping, hiking, climbing, paddling, it doesn’t matter. You’ll have challenging times as well as good times but you will gain knowledge and judgement in the process. The self-confidence that comes from this will show when you go to interview or recruitment. As has already been mentioned, clubs are a good way of getting out with like-minded people, particularly when you are young.

5/ Learn the basic skills of bushcraft. Integrate them as much as possible into what you do when you stay outdoors. Don’t treat these skills as something separate – they are part of your outdoor toolkit. Use them as part of your outdoor life. The more you use the skills, the more they will flow and the more relaxed you will feel outdoors generally.

6/ Get some first aid training. First aid skills are a must-have in outdoor education but they will be valuable straight away. First aid training is a life skill. You will be able to help family, friends, neighbours or even strangers on the street if anything happens. Make sure you refresh your skills regularly to keep them sharp.

7/ Get really good at navigation. If you want to go anywhere wild, then you need to be a confident and competent navigator. Learn to use a map and compass really well. Start off near to home and don’t try to learn everything at once. Build your confidence and your skill level progressively. If you can, try to get out with someone who has more experience and ask them to teach you the basics.

8/ Get your driving licence. This has already been mentioned. Get your licence as soon as you can. The insurance on business vehicles often has a minimum age. It also sometimes has a minimum number of years e.g. 3 years since you passed your test. So, the longer you’ve had your licence, the better. And keep your licence clean! Points generally don’t mean prizes in the jobs market.

9/ Don’t give up! Even if you get some rejections, even if people try to steer you towards a more ‘normal’ career path, stick at it. If it’s what you really want, be persistent.

Good luck!

Paul
 

East Coaster

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Oct 21, 2008
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All good advice above but remember, volunteer , volunteer , volunteer, volunteer. frankly it seems to be the only way into an outdoorsy career.
If you can't afford to work for nothing ,,,,,,well tough! there seems to be an abundance of middle class (supported by sugar daddies) types just waiting to fill these posts. IT career? well, every second kid out of school can do IT these days.
PS brush up on your English/spelling/grammar or you can forget the IT side of things
 

Asbo

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Aug 30, 2010
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Fareham, Hampshire, UK
Thanks paul that was some awesome advise and ill start emailing around the bush craft companies to see what i need.

Im a young leader At the scout group where was with when i was a scout. I take a strong roll in the grout i am in 3 sections 1 beavers 2 scouts,i am a part of 2 explora groups one that is DofE based with lots of hikes and treks and one that is Sea based were i do a lot of kayaking and sailing Etc. Im also the Group Quartermaster at the group that im a YL with.On camps I am the leader that teachers the scouts there Knife Axe and saw. Currently i have My 1st responders course that i did as a Young Leader what is the same for Leaders module one.

Thansk for all your help.
 

Bushwhacker

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Jun 26, 2008
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Three outdoors jobs I've had.
Helping my dad on the milk round - Plenty of walking in all winds and weather.
Window cleaner - Lots of climbing and got to see some rather unusual things.
Gardening - Plant ID and wildlife a plenty.
 

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