Bushcraft and homesteading skills in WW3

[bearbait]

iirc the "zombie survival guide" recommended a bicycle as the ideal vehicle; at least most zombies i've encountered were wwaayyss to slow to catch one

According to "Zomboat!" zombies aren't even as fast as a canal boat.

 

[Broch]

It is worth pointing out that nobody in Wales suffered any measurable harm due to fall out from Chernobyl. It is also worth considering that many of the identified UK targets would not be subject to nuclear weapon hits but by using alternative missile technologies. For example, the nearest potential target to us is a small radar station (shown on some fall-out models as a potential nuclear target) - it would be a total waste of a nuclear weapon when a well targeted missile could destroy it.

 

[HorseGuy]

Surprisingly many, outside the red forest. Many wild animals thrive there. In the reactor itself they found some fungi that seem to like radiation ...

I read that despite the radiation animals and birds in 'The Zone' were flourishing even better than the surrounding areas due to the absence of humans.

 

[HorseGuy]

Take a good look at chernoble. How many people have gone back to the area and are living comfortably there, years and years afterwards. Don't kid yourselves.

Nuclear power station meltdowns are very different to nuclear missile explosions. A nuclear power station meltdown is a continuous ongoing event which keeps pumping out fresh radioactivity for many years.

A missile explosion is a temporary event where all of the radiation is released in an instant and then quickly decays away. After just two weeks almost all of the radiation will have gone and it will be safe to go outside without protection (apart from the hordes of zombies mutants of course ).

 

[HillBill]

Pluto used to be classed as a Planet when I was a lad.

Science changes apparently.

(off topic reply)

It's a weird one. as Pluto meets the definition for a planet. But it was the 9th planet. Now, we know there is another body out there disturbing the Kuiper belt, which we now call planet 9 (IX) Before Pluto was demoted (cheers De Grasse Tyson) It was known as Planet X (10) And there was a massive conspiracy thing about it (Nibiru)... So now they can acknowledge it openly by calling it planet 9...(though its likely a brown dwarf star, as most solar systems are binary) Weird old world.

 

[MrEd]

Surprisingly many, outside the red forest. Many wild animals thrive there. In the reactor itself they found some fungi that seem to like radiation ...

Yep and actually when I went, the amount of wildlife was astonishing. Just getting on with it

 

[forrestdweller]

According to "Zomboat!" zombies aren't even as fast as a canal boat.

i've encountered more than enough sheeple who walked that slow you could have resoled their boots while they were walking....

 

[Keith_Beef]

So now they can acknowledge it openly by calling it planet 9...(though its likely a brown dwarf star, as most solar systems are binary) Weird old world.

Is there serious scientific debate as to the existence of a brown dwarf street within our solar system, making it a binary star system?

That's new to me... I need to get out more.

 

[TLM]

It is worth pointing out that nobody in Wales suffered any measurable harm due to fall out from Chernobyl. It is also worth considering that many of the identified UK targets would not be subject to nuclear weapon hits but by using alternative missile technologies. For example, the nearest potential target to us is a small radar station (shown on some fall-out models as a potential nuclear target) - it would be a total waste of a nuclear weapon when a well targeted missile could destroy it.

During Cold War there was a story telling why Soviet nukes were typically larger than western ones. The missiles used were much more inaccurate so they had to use bigger artificial suns to achieve a kill on a point target.

 

[Broch]

Times have moved on - I doubt they are any less accurate than Western ones now. Everything is driven by budget.

 

[HillBill]

Is there serious scientific debate as to the existence of a brown dwarf street within our solar system, making it a binary star system?

That's new to me... I need to get out more.

Well, its more of a probability than not. Given around 85% of stars are binary. 'planet 9' hasn't been found yet, but the evidence of its existence, of something with a very high mass in the outer solar system has. Just google Planet 9, lots of stuff about it.

 

[Broch]

I just love the way these threads drift around the universe
I had to go back up to the title to remind myself what we were talking about!

 

[Toddy]

I have been tempted half a dozen times to shift the thread into Other Chatter

 

[HorseGuy]

I just love the way these threads drift around the universe
I had to go back up to the title to remind myself what we were talking about!

Threads which wander off onto random subjects are usually the most entertaining and educational to read.

Oh look! A squirrel!

 

[Toddy]

Threads which wander off onto random subjects are usually the most entertaining and educational to read.

Oh look! A squirrel!

Sequential Art

 

[TeeDee]

I have been tempted half a dozen times to shift the thread into Other Chatter

Just rename the whole forum - ' Other Chatter ' - Modding problem solved.

 

[forrestdweller]

iirc the "zombie survival guide" recommended a bicycle as the ideal vehicle; at least most zombies i've encountered were wwaayyss to slow to catch one

usually i don't quote myself, but here some additions reg. bicycles: iirc the Swiss still use bicycles for military purposes and the Viet Minh and later the North Vietnamese proved their use against unwelcome visitors (fun fact: Ho Chi Minh was the top OSS agent in Vietnam during WW2); likewise some armies still use pack animals for mountain warfare

 

[NotSafeForWork]

A week after Chernobyl strange rain fell on the crofters' sheep. Then

Liz Hunt investigates claims that a cancer `cluster' in the Hebrides could be linked to Chernobyl fallout

www.independent.co.uk

Yes it would still be slightly higher than normal background radiation levels after two weeks but not by much. It is generally accepted that after two weeks it would be safe to go outside again with no protection. It is the first two to three days which are the most critical by far. That is the nature of half-life decay.

There will be some more localized pockets or areas where there will be a higher concentration of fallout. Corners other nooks and crannies where fallout could blow to and collect for instance. Also some plants or trees could store some radioactivity and potentially release it later when eaten or burned.

I know have data from aerial surveys after chernobyl, there is data available to me of the places such as benbicular and North Wales with contamination levels.
I have gamma spectroscopy equipment & I can see chernobyl in samples of wood ash.

You may also want windscale fire

Oh and Iodine 131 from fukushima.

It's restricted use so it can't be published on any website

 

[GreyCat]

Was thinking the other day after my fun and games with a severe cold plug in my flue..... [https://bushcraftuk.com/community/t...s-and-clearblue-log-multifuel-burners.169330/]

....... how much homesteading type "preparedness" depends on practice. For example, having a log burner and making occasional use is one thing, but using it routinely- and so being able to rely on it in difficult conditions- is entirely another.

Solid fuel in particular is a bit of a lifestyle change. Not just a decent external fuel store, but the various things used for routine firelighting. This was "common knowledge" when we all had coal fires, but dropped out of use as use of coal fires dropped out of use. Use of a gas poker or a bleezer to get the fire going for example....

[...... a butane weed gun is a viable replacement for a gas poker. DAMHIKT.....]

Over this winter, as we've used the Rayburn constantly and the living room wood burner every night, plus my office stove when I am working, we have developed all the "infrastructure" required.Not just fuel, but the whole organisation for clearing and disposing of ash, plus a new daily routine.

It's a lifestyle change really.

GC

 

[Keith_Beef]

This article popped up in my news feed today, tangentially linked to living outside the mainstream economic and political system, "off-grid" as it would be called today.

A century in the Siberian wilderness: the Old Believers who time forgot

The long read: In 1978, Soviet scientists stumbled upon a family living in a remote part of Russia. They hadn’t interacted with outsiders for decades. Almost half a century later, one of them is still there

www.theguardian.com