BCUK Ventile Jacket - a short review

MikeDB

Jack in the Green
Dec 13, 2005
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East Yorkshire
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As far as I know this jacket has not been worn on TV by Ray Mears, it hasn’t saved Bear Grylls form certain death, it’s not endorsed by any celebrity or indeed issued to any specialist Regiments of the British Army……. actually, perhaps that’s a good thing!

I’ve had this in daily use for about a month and I know that the summer isn’t the ideal time to test or evaluate a shell jacket but as this current summer has been a tad wetter than most (since 1798 anyhow) the BCUK Ventile Jacket has had some truly horrible conditions to contend with.

Performance:
Just as you would expect with Ventile the performance has been superb. Those with no experience of the material will need to adjust their thinking. It’s not a waterproof per se, as Gore-Tex is. The material does get wet, slightly heavier and tends to stiffen when drying out however, this jacket, in common with many of the popular Ventile shells isn’t a complete double layer so it doesn’t suffer the ‘stiff as corrugated cardboard’ effect. (My old double layer jacket could stand up on it’s own after a day in the rain.)

In terms of breathability Ventile still has an edge over manmade materials.
I wore it as a shell over a cotton shirt (I know, not usually advised) last week on Snowdon and, after two hours climbing in mixed conditions (slight rain, mist, breeze and then bright sunshine) I was still comfortable and dry. (A man made jacket would have been a boil in the bag experience).

It has had ample opportunity to shed rain, even in usually sunny Chester.
After a couple of hours in really heavy rain on an estuary trip I was still dry and so were the contents of the pockets which proved to me the ability of the water resistant zips.

So, as far as general performance goes I have no complaints, in fact, it performs as well as my SASS Ventile.

Design & Fit:
Based on a Westwinds design it’s a single layer jacket that has a fold away hood with waterproof zips.
Two maps pockets and two side pockets only with the huge improvement of a Ventile half liner as opposed to polyester mesh.
Personally I think that it’s lack of military looks add to the usefulness of the jacket.
My wife is quite happy for me to wear this around town but draws the line at smocks and combat jackets, fair point I guess.
Suffice to say you get less odd glances, it may not be an important point but I think was worth mentioning.

I found the XL to be a good fit and I’m a fairly lar, bi, er, short for my weight.
Basically I’m 6’2 and about 17 st, usually I’ll wear a 46 – 48” and this XL fitted me although if I wanted to wear several deep winter layers underneath I’d find it a little snug. In comparison to the SASS Smock it’s a shorter cut and not as roomy but it is a good fit and also is long enough in the arm for those of us with a tendency to knuckle drag.

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Overall:
The BCUK Ventile jacket does what it says on the tin.
It’s not perhaps the ‘ideal’ but then what is. If I was going to be out for a prolonged period in torrential rain or indeed if I’m in snow/ice conditions then I’ll take my Recon Jacket.
If I was faced with only choosing one in that ‘end of the world as we know it’ scenario I’d possibly take my SASS Smock but for all weather, all use, general purpose (including shopping and walking dogs and children) then I’ll take the BCUK.

After all, we are based in the UK mostly and if your practicing your bushcraft here then it’s a fairly ideal shell jacket at a very good price in comparison to some others and, at the end of the day,

‘If you have been out long enough for the rain to seep through your Ventile then you have been out too long’

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A few pictures showing hood detail in comparison to the Norrona Recon.

Annie (the dismembered model wasn't looking at her best but she has been playing victim on too many Rescue Diver courses!) :D


Full Hood
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Hood adjusted for depth of fit
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Norrona Recon hood for comparison
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Thanks for reading this, hope it was of some help, or at least not too boring!

Mike
 

KevB

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Oct 19, 2005
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Great review Mike - quick question though - I've had an original Westwinds ventile smock for a few years now and I wear it whenever I can, however my missus doesn't object to the look of the thing when I wear it down town just to the stench of woodsmoke that's permeated it ! How do you get round that one ?
 

scoops_uk

Nomad
Feb 6, 2005
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Jurassic Coast
Useful review and some good pics of the jacket, thanks.

I hadn't realised it was so smart from the "shop" pics, I'm tempted now!!! :D


Scoops
 

MikeDB

Jack in the Green
Dec 13, 2005
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East Yorkshire
Great review Mike - quick question though - I've had an original Westwinds ventile smock for a few years now and I wear it whenever I can, however my missus doesn't object to the look of the thing when I wear it down town just to the stench of woodsmoke that's permeated it ! How do you get round that one ?

Long suffering SWMBO has put up with many things. We are both diving instuctors, (wet dive kit pongs), we have a four year old boy, (small boys can be a tad whiffy too), we have a labrador (no comment needed) plus I have some old Lundhags and the tallow dressing, a really medievel offacultory experience. I guess she doesn't notice the faint aroma of woodsmoke :D

Mike
 

MikeDB

Jack in the Green
Dec 13, 2005
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Useful review and some good pics of the jacket, thanks.

I hadn't realised it was so smart from the "shop" pics, I'm tempted now!!! :D


Scoops

Honestly, it's a gucchi bit of kit. I am/have been a bit of a kit monster in the past and so I did compare it to some stiff competition. It's right up their (IMHO) with the SASS, Country Innovations, Swazi, Norrona and Snowsled.

Mike
 

Shepard

Tenderfoot
Jul 31, 2006
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Looks great!

Some nitpicking from a gear freak...

Anychance for a picture of it fully zipped(how much does the collar cover your face)?
Does that zipper snag your beard?
How is the hood? As good as a Norrøna one? Pic?

All those seams doesnt make it leaky? Close up piccy?

The Recon jacket will not take as much sparks or breathe as much as a Ventile jacket.

Too bad you dont have room enough for a puff jacket underneath since that would make it one serious winter parka.

That mountain jacket cut looks great!
 

sandsnakes

Life Member
May 22, 2006
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Out of adversity I was forced to buy one...yes who forgot all of thier goretex when they went to the moot :eek: so I purchased the ventile jacket. :welcome:
Normally I would not spend this amount on kit as I use military stuff as it is cheap and designed for punishment. If it is in a very leary camo design I just dye it to tone it down.

What I noticed first was that it is quiet, not a rustle to be heard which was great improvement on my ex GDR goretex. Things stayed dry and their was a total lack of the soggy armpit syndrome. I am now a convert. The wired hood is fantastic and adjustable so you dont feel like you are in a cave and you do have side vision. There is probably better kit about, but given the cost of ventile per meter and the production quality it is actully very well priced.

Reccomended for days out in the wet in Wales.

Sandsnakes
 

gregorach

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Sep 15, 2005
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Some nitpicking from a gear freak...

Anychance for a picture of it fully zipped(how much does the collar cover your face)?
Does that zipper snag your beard?
How is the hood? As good as a Norrøna one? Pic?

The collar is pretty high. Yes, the zipper can occassionally snag your beard - I've been meaning to add a little fold-over cover for the top of the zip to prevent that, but haven't got around to it yet. The hood is bleedin' enormous - at full extension, it's got a kinda Obi-Wan Kenobi feel to it... ;)
 

MikeDB

Jack in the Green
Dec 13, 2005
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Looks great!

Some nitpicking from a gear freak...

Anychance for a picture of it fully zipped(how much does the collar cover your face)?
Does that zipper snag your beard?
How is the hood? As good as a Norrøna one? Pic?

All those seams doesnt make it leaky? Close up piccy?

The Recon jacket will not take as much sparks or breathe as much as a Ventile jacket.

Too bad you dont have room enough for a puff jacket underneath since that would make it one serious winter parka.

That mountain jacket cut looks great!

Pictures added to the review now mate.
Leaky, nope, the thread swells within the weave so it seals itself.

I've just dug out my Snugpak Sleeka and it fits under the Ventile so it's rommier than I initially thought.

Mike
 

Shepard

Tenderfoot
Jul 31, 2006
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Wow, awesome pics m8!

Glad to hear its roomy enough for a puff jacket.

It looks like that jacket sure gives the Recon a run for its money.

Excellent review, 10/10 points!

Hope you manages to wear it out adventuring outdoors!
 

Beer Monster

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Aug 25, 2004
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With the gnu!
I am sure I know the girl in the pictures - isn't it our Annie?

She doesn't look very well?!? :eek:

Quick question. Does the collour get quite bulky when the hood is stowed away? i.e. is it constrictive around the throat when zipped up to the top with the hood stowed?

Also is there a storm flap behind the water resistant main zip?
 

MikeDB

Jack in the Green
Dec 13, 2005
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East Yorkshire
Annie really isn't looking at her best at the moment, tis true.

I was going to add some more comparison pics but gaffer taping a dismembered head onto a tripod, dressing it in jackets and taking pictures in the garden draws a few odd looks form the neighbours!

Mike
 

gregorach

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Sep 15, 2005
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No storm flap, but it doesn't seem to need one. The water resistant zips work.

The collar can be a little bulky with the hood stowed, but not too bad if you fold it right. There's still plenty of space, unless you've got a massive neck.
 

MikeDB

Jack in the Green
Dec 13, 2005
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East Yorkshire
Great review Mike. How does the sleeve length compare to the Ray Mears Swazi Tahr?

It's slightly shorter but not by much. I'll dig a tape out later and check for you.

Mike

Ok, Armpit to cuff on the Ventile is 23", and although different to measure I make my Tahr 25".

Hope that helps
 

Aliwren

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Jan 2, 2006
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I ordered a BCUK ventile Jacket last weekend, it arrived today, very quick service!

I have only worn it walking to work and back but what a great jacket, it feels very comfortable and looks great, it will replace my Gortex XCR jacket for an every day coat, the cut and length are idea for me and the hood is huge!!

I am really impressed! Great work by all involved in bringing this to the market! :You_Rock_
 

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