Or I can add a bug net to what I have already.
That tent is 1.5kg, and offers less space to the user than a tarp does...
Also, it's 4 times the price of the bug net...
J
I don't like hooped bivvi's.
I like the bivvi bags that I can use as a sleeping bag cover, wrap myself up in my cocoon, curl up on my side and watch the woods go by.
That's the best bit- they don't have to be! I mostly use mine like a hoopless bivvy- makes no difference at all and is just the same as a normal bivvy .
Don't shoot the messenger but it replaces your Tarp and Bivvy bag and provides bug protection. I think that it actually comes in lighter than your 3 piece design.
Tell you about the lay flat comfort of my new DD hammock soon.
How quick do you need it Julia? They are still out of stock but did you see the Tyvek ground nest I linked you? 350g for bug protection and you don't need the bivvy...
Is it the same breathable material all over?
Julia
I would like something by when I go out next month. I'm not sure why I wouldn't need the bivvi with that item? The dew/damp will still get to the sleeping bag, there is nothing to stop it on that ground nest.
Julia
only if you use the poles. Stripped mine down to under a kilo now and plenty big enough and I'm no midget.Thanks, just seen it. That BA bug tent is 2.3kg tho!
Sea to summit make a nano bug net at 82g that I may try out on my next trip.
Thanks all.
J
Do you not find that your tarp keeps the majority of the dew off? I've certainly found that to be the case when hammock camping. Also I would think the mesh would trap some warm air and reduce any dew further.
only if you use the poles. Stripped mine down to under a kilo now and plenty big enough and I'm no midget.
A few reasons:
- I like the tarp, I like being able to see the world around me
- I don't need the bug protection year round, or in every location I camp in
- Tents are either going to be heavy, or expensive. I can't justify the cost for a trip to the local woods. Maybe for a big trip, but there I will probably go trailstar + bear pawd nest route.
Yep, but on a clear night, you still get dew, which is part of the reason for still using a bivvi bag even when no rain is forecast.
No chance.
- As a side sleeper can I get a flat lay in a dd hammock?
- Have you seen the weight?
- Would require switching to under quilts and things...
Does it effect the breathability of goretex? does it eat plastic the way that Deet does?
A tent would be cheaper, lighter and offer better bug protection (when needed) than a tarp, bivvy and bug netting though
No need to spray goretex as the little biters can't get through that layer.
I've used it on tarps, tent inner netting, jumpers, trousers, shoes and even socks, not had anything melt yet.
I'm sure there are certain breeds or areas where the midges don't bother about Permethrin, can't say as i've found anywhere yet though.
On a recent day hike with a mate there were swarms of the biters, i hadn't reapplied he Permethrin since i was in the UK so the clothes have had several washes.
You could physically see the clouds of mossies parting as i walked through, very weird and of much annoyance to my mate that got eaten alive