A week on foraged wild food.
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That thread was a really good illustration of why the watercress should be cooked if there is even the slightest doubt.
I think my problem with the stuff in my pond is that I munch my way round the weeds in my garden and this stuff just looks so green and inviting.....I think I'll just not bother eating it raw.
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I think my problem with the stuff in my pond is that I munch my way round the weeds in my garden and this stuff just looks so green and inviting.....I think I'll just not bother eating it raw.
atb,
M
yep, that will still happen if you take on a large amount at once, say 250g, your body will only take on 50 odd grams at once, little and often is the key with protine, every 2 or 3 hours, it worked well on me bulking up the muscle but i was still hungry most the time....
Lots and often, that's how I liveStupid metabolism means I never put on weight though.
ha ha ha ha, i too feel your pain...
and sorry for the
Fi.shell fish / fish and meat are very high or nearly pure protine, this fills you up faster for longer, carbs are slower to digest and can be taken more easily, your body will only take (i think) about 50 g of protine at one sitting, carbs are allot more....
the body works on fats first then carbs then protine, what hitting the gym can teach you hey....
What utter tosh!
proteins and 'complex' carbs take roughly the same time a couple of hours or so, fats slightly longer
Veg is 3+ times quicker, fruits quicker still.
The most simple carbs like sugars, are the fastest of all, mere tens of minutes
But of course, the digestion and absorption of foods is hugely effected by combination of consumption, meds, general health, alcohol consumption, temperature and so on
What studying anatomy and physiology at MSc can teach you hey
i think what your doing Fi is awesome, id love to be able to have the chance to do it where i live, but moving every 3 years has its down falls...
what can i say, what i have been told must be wrong.....
look, sorry, bit peeved in general here,
my tone in response wasnt necessary, sorryyou have been told what you need to do to ensure muscle growth at the gym, an adult needs approx 20-30gram of proteins daily for soft tissue repair. kids need a lot more (and in more complex forms due to soft tissue growth) if you are aiming to bulk up, then you need more as well, but it doesnt need to be as diverse necessarily, but does need to be easily absorbable, as like you say, you dont take it all in throguh the digestive tract. not only will the excess pass through, but it will geenrally slow transit. this is why things such as whey protiens are marketed, the belief you will absorb faster and easier.
fats take a long time due to being really quite difficult and needing a whole load more enzymes than other foods, those that dont have a bile duct for example, will not tolerate fats and they pass through in large quantities
most of what i see has been eaten here, is simple veg, quite processed (by that i mean pulped and cooked) which will digest quickly, the rest is shell fish and complex carbs, this will take around 2-3 hours
the reason we often get munchies is to do with the uppy downey of our blood sugars (within the normal range unless diabetic) that causes thoughts of hunger. due in the main to having high sugar diets. as said, sugar is a simple carb that is so easily absorbed, it even dissolves in water, not need for lots of funky enzymes to come pumping out of your liver to do the job. in addition we tend to eat far too much at sittings instead fo the more natural way of little and often.
i suspect that a fair bit of fluid has been consumed too, this will add to the reduction in hunger pangs
finally, the lowering of calorific intake will be levelling out, the first few days of the body suspecting a famine, it metabolises muscle as that is quick to do, around the 3rd day, fat metabolism starts in addition to the metabolic rate slowing to conserve fat stores
today is that third day
look, sorry, bit peeved in general here,
you have been told what you need to do to ensure muscle growth at the gym, an adult needs approx 20-30gram of proteins daily for soft tissue repair. kids need a lot more (and in more complex forms due to soft tissue growth) if you are aiming to bulk up, then you need more as well, but it doesnt need to be as diverse necessarily, but does need to be easily absorbable, as like you say, you dont take it all in throguh the digestive tract. not only will the excess pass through, but it will geenrally slow transit. this is why things such as whey protiens are marketed, the belief you will absorb faster and easier.
fats take a long time due to being really quite difficult and needing a whole load more enzymes than other foods, those that dont have a bile duct for example, will not tolerate fats and they pass through in large quantities
most of what i see has been eaten here, is simple veg, quite processed (by that i mean pulped and cooked) which will digest quickly, the rest is shell fish and complex carbs, this will take around 2-3 hours
the reason we often get munchies is to do with the uppy downey of our blood sugars (within the normal range unless diabetic) that causes thoughts of hunger. due in the main to having high sugar diets. as said, sugar is a simple carb that is so easily absorbed, it even dissolves in water, not need for lots of funky enzymes to come pumping out of your liver to do the job. in addition we tend to eat far too much at sittings instead fo the more natural way of little and often.
i suspect that a fair bit of fluid has been consumed too, this will add to the reduction in hunger pangs
finally, the lowering of calorific intake will be levelling out, the first few days of the body suspecting a famine, it metabolises muscle as that is quick to do, around the 3rd day, fat metabolism starts in addition to the metabolic rate slowing to conserve fat stores
today is that third day
ok no probs, thanks for the advise.
regards.
chris.
Hey Jon, fancy starting another thread mate instead of disrupting this one with your rants and lectures ?
you're doing well for a bloke that backed out of this thread some time ago !
you're doing well for a bloke that backed out of this thread some time ago !
Jon's first reply to Chris was a bit terse but I thought he apologised pretty gracefully. His protein, fat, carbohydrate seems well informed and useful. Personally I think it is relevant to the thread and is a useful contribution.
Perhaps he deserves some slack?
Good work Fiona. I'm gripped by your posts so far, and especially intrigued to hear how you process and consume your foraging bounty as well as striving to maintain a balance.
Kudos too for not taking the bait from the naysayers. There are a couple on here that do like to rant from the comfort of their armchair.
All the best
Kudos too for not taking the bait from the naysayers. There are a couple on here that do like to rant from the comfort of their armchair.
All the best
Good 'elth Fiona, I'm now subscribed
Thank you for taking the time to share your trial.
Can I ask the unasked ?
How have your bodily functions altered ? Frequency/consitution etc ? Cheers Chis
Thank you for taking the time to share your trial.
Can I ask the unasked ?
How have your bodily functions altered ? Frequency/consitution etc ? Cheers Chis
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