112 emergency number

[bashabuddy]

I can def be of help with this one. I currently work for the ambulance service actually dispatching ambulances 12hrs a day.
Recently the mobile phone providers have started using ROAMing calls. (recently as much as in last 3month). This facility enables your mobile to 'cherry pick' the strongest signal after your subscribed network. The only issue with this service is that the then recieving service doesnt automatically get your mobile number.

The triangulation of mobile phones also is done almost instantly. It will initally give us the transmitter the call was received from. Then if the signal is triangulated it gives us a percentage of probabilty of being in that area. again this information is lost if not using your normal provider. the message we get satates (1234) 567890 is 85% prob. to grid SE 12345,67891. This can then be made even more acurate with a phone call to the provider.

999/112 is exactly the same emergency operator, not a special dedicated mobile operator.

HTH

 

[Itzal]

I can def be of help with this one. I currently work for the ambulance service actually dispatching ambulances 12hrs a day.
Recently the mobile phone providers have started using ROAMing calls. (recently as much as in last 3month). This facility enables your mobile to 'cherry pick' the strongest signal after your subscribed network. The only issue with this service is that the then recieving service doesnt automatically get your mobile number.

The triangulation of mobile phones also is done almost instantly. It will initally give us the transmitter the call was received from. Then if the signal is triangulated it gives us a percentage of probabilty of being in that area. again this information is lost if not using your normal provider. the message we get satates (1234) 567890 is 85% prob. to grid SE 12345,67891. This can then be made even more acurate with a phone call to the provider.

999/112 is exactly the same emergency operator, not a special dedicated mobile operator.

HTH

Agreed, I was present at a demo the other day, when you call you are instantly tracked.

 

[Melonfish]

Reminds me of an emergency phone i saw in wales. apparently it did have a full keypad on it until they clocked people phoning australia with it (free phone see?)
so they replaced the keys, it now only has "1, 2, 3" on there.
i'll post a pic tonight but it made me laugh because people who don't know the 112 number will be wondering how to dial the numbers to add up to 999

 

[MrPhil]

Is there a separate number to call if you require the coastguard - or was there?

I only ask as I seem to remember something from the vague depths of my mind from when I was a Scout (some 20 years ago).

 

[Itzal]

Is there a separate number to call if you require the coastguard - or was there?

I only ask as I seem to remember something from the vague depths of my mind from when I was a Scout (some 20 years ago).

Nope, 999/112, should task all emergency services, the police do mountain Rescue, not sure but think the coast guard are tasked separately via their own control room through 999/112.

 

[MrPhil]

If I needed the coastguard i would probably have called 999 and asked them for the coastguard, its all good to know.

 

[Crowe]

I met one of the designers of the 911E program in the US and was told 'all 3G network phones transmit precise coordinates when connected to 911 (the emergency no in the US) so the call can be tracked to GPS accuracy'
Interesting thread
Crowe

 

[bashabuddy]

Yea ambulance service now deal with Mountain rescue in Yorkshire direct too! And yep 999 for coast guard too!

 

[Itzal]

Yea ambulance service now deal with Mountain rescue in Yorkshire direct too! And yep 999 for coast guard too!

Didn't realise ambo tasked MRT's I know they request help but thought all that was from old bill.

 

[bashabuddy]

Yea .. sometimes easier for us to ring MRT or Fell Rescue/Cave rescue etc. sort of cuts out the middle man. Police generally dont like to get involved with sprained ankles or fractures out in bushy land. Always seemed like going round the houses for a medical emergency! Especially as we usually deploy the Jellicopter too........

 

[Chinkapin]

Here in the U.S. phones started coming out several years ago with a GPS feature that you could either turn on or off as you choose.

It is my understanding that the new phones all have GPS feature. I think the ability to turn it off may have been done away with. Not sure.

The down side of this is more Big Brother. There have already been cases of the police tracking people in real time by monitoring their cell phone GPS. The U.S. law allows this If a court order has been obtained. But, unfortunately, some zealous police officers have been doing it without court orders (naturally). I'm afraid that as long as there is a terrorist threat, more and more of this type of activity will be seen. Just as you woke up one day and discovered you were on camera all day, we are waking up to discover that a real time map can be created of our every move. On the plus side of the ledger, some kidnappers and others have been put in prison because their cell phone GPS records showed that they had been exactly where they had been denying they had been.

 

[rik_uk3]

Here in the U.S. phones started coming out several years ago with a GPS feature that you could either turn on or off as you choose.

It is my understanding that the new phones all have GPS feature. I think the ability to turn it off may have been done away with. Not sure.

The down side of this is more Big Brother. There have already been cases of the police tracking people in real time by monitoring their cell phone GPS. The U.S. law allows this If a court order has been obtained. But, unfortunately, some zealous police officers have been doing it without court orders (naturally). I'm afraid that as long as there is a terrorist threat, more and more of this type of activity will be seen. Just as you woke up one day and discovered you were on camera all day, we are waking up to discover that a real time map can be created of our every move. On the plus side of the ledger, some kidnappers and others have been put in prison because their cell phone GPS records showed that they had been exactly where they had been denying they had been.

Nothing wrong with being tracked if your doing no wrong?

 

[widu13]

I met one of the designers of the 911E program in the US and was told 'all 3G network phones transmit precise coordinates when connected to 911 (the emergency no in the US) so the call can be tracked to GPS accuracy'
Interesting thread
Crowe

Totally different Government requirements in the US. (FCC rules must be adhered to for licensing). No such requirements are in place here.

 

[verloc]

Nothing wrong with being tracked if your doing no wrong?

completely and utterly disagree but that would be very off the point.

 

[dasy2k1]

Reminds me of an emergency phone i saw in wales. apparently it did have a full keypad on it until they clocked people phoning australia with it (free phone see?)
so they replaced the keys, it now only has "1, 2, 3" on there.
i'll post a pic tonight but it made me laugh because people who don't know the 112 number will be wondering how to dial the numbers to add up to 999

those 3 buttons are actually memory buttons and should have labels next to each one stating who they go to....

you should only need to push one button.

the most common options are
1 AA
2 RAC
3 999/112