My trousers arrived today. They're even better value if you order more than one pair. The material is soft & thick. Pockets provide great utility (see the photo in post #1) The cut & fit has an air of 'old-fashioned tailored' & they wouldn't look out of place as a 'dress' item. Martti was a pleasure to deal with, dispatch was swift & delivery quick. Recommended. ps I got size 8/52 I'll take an inch of the leg length for my inside legs of 32" There's an extra inch or so in the waist for my 33" circumference, but I'll leave that in case of christmas feasting, otherwise a belt is all that's needed.