False Idols
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thing is, im sure he is very good at what he does. but i hate his TV series, all the way through you barely learn anything bar a couple of historic facs.
every episode is pretty much the same, hes always banging on about the same thing and its kinda gets boring.
anyway my opinion on the best guy to look up to as a bushcrafting idol is a bloke off youtube called fredde, his screenname is hobbexp.
In my opinion he's far better than Ray
every episode is pretty much the same, hes always banging on about the same thing and its kinda gets boring.
anyway my opinion on the best guy to look up to as a bushcrafting idol is a bloke off youtube called fredde, his screenname is hobbexp.
In my opinion he's far better than Ray
i'l seccond that! very skilled
also andy price, the guy who did the A to Z of bushcraft, another one well worth watching
pete
yes, have you seen his videos about making a bow drill fire with damp wood, or making a bow drill fire in the rain...
thats very cool!
yeah I enjoy flicking through his youtube channel - very educational and can pick up some 'no frills' real living skills.
Also, he has a 'favorite' saved about kite fishing. I used it off a boat in the loch and it works better than any fishing trick i have ever seen - period.
Also, he has a 'favorite' saved about kite fishing. I used it off a boat in the loch and it works better than any fishing trick i have ever seen - period.
also andy price, the guy who did the A to Z of bushcraft, another one well worth watching
pete
Ah - the man who did a multi-page magazine article on how to turn an office filing cabinet into a camp oven......
But redeemed himself with his BG take off vid!
I'm amused by this thread but it does beg the general question ... do you spend too much time reading/watching/surfing the net for 'bushcraft' instead of actually getting out and putting all these skills (some of which you will never need) into practice?
Ray Mears god? probably not .. but he is damn good at communicating his vast knowledge.
Incidently, the question isn't aimed at anyone in particular .. but you do need to ask yourself it sometimes, I know I have.
Ray Mears god? probably not .. but he is damn good at communicating his vast knowledge.
Incidently, the question isn't aimed at anyone in particular .. but you do need to ask yourself it sometimes, I know I have.
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Ray Mears is just a human being that has to make a living just like the rest of us.
I like his programs and I also think he's done a lot for the public perception of what we do, but I don't think he's god. Heck I don't even think "God" is god for that matter.
I think this personality worship lark is wearing pretty thin in my opinion.
I'm sure if you met him out of the public arena he would turn out to be just an ordinary guy with a good knowledge of his chosen interest. I'm sure he's just the sort of person I would get on well with sat round a fire with a pint.
So what, I meet people like that in just about every walk of life, I'm sure you, reading this now, have an equally good knowledge in some field you are interested in. I'm sure you don't feel god like because of it do you?
One of the things that has been a constant source of enjoyment to me when attending meet ups has been the skill and enthusiasm demonstrated even by people who consider themselves to be "newbies"
The sooner people realise that gods don't exist the better off we'll all be as far as I'm concerned.
Ray Mears is just a human being that has to make a living just like the rest of us.
I like his programs and I also think he's done a lot for the public perception of what we do, but I don't think he's god. Heck I don't even think "God" is god for that matter.
I think this personality worship lark is wearing pretty thin in my opinion.
I'm sure if you met him out of the public arena he would turn out to be just an ordinary guy with a good knowledge of his chosen interest. I'm sure he's just the sort of person I would get on well with sat round a fire with a pint.
So what, I meet people like that in just about every walk of life, I'm sure you, reading this now, have an equally good knowledge in some field you are interested in. I'm sure you don't feel god like because of it do you?
One of the things that has been a constant source of enjoyment to me when attending meet ups has been the skill and enthusiasm demonstrated even by people who consider themselves to be "newbies"
The sooner people realise that gods don't exist the better off we'll all be as far as I'm concerned.
I guess it's to show how to make the saw handle, it could have been made using a single saw blade, but that's more time consuming, more effort and your more likely to cut yourself.
The other reason, going from memory wasn't this was a community working together? how to borrow a saw and make your own if one has broken. Or, possibly more likely, how to make a saw handle for someone else so they don't break yours
"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest"
But the Army has had special forces using advanced survival skills long before R.M. was born!
Jim
All I can say is:
I like bushcraft. It fits with my own way of looking at the environment that I am in. I enjoy moving through a natural place seeing the resources around me (even if not using them at the time). I like to leave a place as pristine as it was when I found it - Leave no trace.
I have met Ray only briefly and he seems to be the same person in life as he does on TV.
I have met someone who has travelled with him at length and he said that Ray is genuine and has a great sense of humour (I think the phrase "always making things" was part of the description too!).
He knows far more about bushcraft than I do, probably than I will ever do.
Idol? god? no neither and he would find that laughable. A respected teacher who I would be happy to learn from? Personally yes.
Just my 2ps worth.
Cheers,
Steve
I like bushcraft. It fits with my own way of looking at the environment that I am in. I enjoy moving through a natural place seeing the resources around me (even if not using them at the time). I like to leave a place as pristine as it was when I found it - Leave no trace.
I have met Ray only briefly and he seems to be the same person in life as he does on TV.
I have met someone who has travelled with him at length and he said that Ray is genuine and has a great sense of humour (I think the phrase "always making things" was part of the description too!).
He knows far more about bushcraft than I do, probably than I will ever do.
Idol? god? no neither and he would find that laughable. A respected teacher who I would be happy to learn from? Personally yes.
Just my 2ps worth.
Cheers,
Steve
Jeesh...
Guys, some of you take yourselves, and bushcraft, a tad too seriously. Lighten up.
My original post wasn't 'trolling' or anything else. It was just a light-hearted flippant comment; as I thought the follow up Bear Grylls endorsement would demonstrate. Clearly not for some of our self-righteous, sanctimonious members.
If anyone else reads this thread and has got this far, then please don't take my original comments seriously. Respond how you like to others though.
Shall we move on to gun ownership as well...?
Guys, some of you take yourselves, and bushcraft, a tad too seriously. Lighten up.
My original post wasn't 'trolling' or anything else. It was just a light-hearted flippant comment; as I thought the follow up Bear Grylls endorsement would demonstrate. Clearly not for some of our self-righteous, sanctimonious members.
If anyone else reads this thread and has got this far, then please don't take my original comments seriously. Respond how you like to others though.
Shall we move on to gun ownership as well...?
suburban bushwacker
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No i'm RM
And while i sit here in the yurt that tops off my Blofeld style lair (with helipad, under ground railway and imprisoned bond girl in a bikini) wearing yet another expensive wristwatch bought on the proceeds of selling equipment in my overpriced shop, any of you mortals who dare to take my name in mirth will be set upon by my army of internet defender TROLLS. I the mighty RM have spoken.
pay no attention to the chubby man from lewisham behind the curtain.
:BlueTeamE
And while i sit here in the yurt that tops off my Blofeld style lair (with helipad, under ground railway and imprisoned bond girl in a bikini) wearing yet another expensive wristwatch bought on the proceeds of selling equipment in my overpriced shop, any of you mortals who dare to take my name in mirth will be set upon by my army of internet defender TROLLS. I the mighty RM have spoken.
pay no attention to the chubby man from lewisham behind the curtain.
:BlueTeamE
Why do we always have to analyse everything, why not watch the programme for what it is an interesting and entertaining tv show, it doesn't really matter whether you prefer Ray Mears or Bear Grylls watch whichever one you want and enjoy it for what it is, neither shows are lectures on survival or bushcraft, and neither presenters should be classed as anything other than human beings who have had lucky breaks and ended up on tv. Don't be over analytical and just enjoy the shows, if you don't like what you see turn it off.
