i am first aid trained mate
although i would agree with the rest, and id also add on organising my camp and being less messy
..... and waking up at some point before the afternoon.
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..... and waking up at some point before the afternoon.
have you guys done any instruction (outdoor, sports, or other), if not try to do a couple courses as assisatant instructor,this is a great way to learn how to plan lessons and courses. i know this helps because i have been teaching sailing since im 14 then i did my full instructor course at 17. thius gave me three years in which i gained hands on experience in teaching.
its one thing knowing the skills, and quite another teaching them.
be reasonable with expectations and set reasonable targets.
otherwise i wish you the best of luck
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at least one of you needs a proper first aid course such as first aid at work, offered by st johns ambulance
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im going to have to agree with some of the others im going to have too agree the videos are going to have to go.
its one thing knowing the skills, and quite another teaching them.
be reasonable with expectations and set reasonable targets.
otherwise i wish you the best of luck
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at least one of you needs a proper first aid course such as first aid at work, offered by st johns ambulance
pps
im going to have to agree with some of the others im going to have too agree the videos are going to have to go.
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Good luck guys.
First aid and liability insurance to begin with.( I know you probably know that,sorry).
In the first instance how about targeting absolute beginners with a few hours of basic things.
I've led nature walk type of things before and it's amazing how much you can teach that you think is old hat but the folks are fascinated and grateful for.
Maybe youngsters and families just looking for nothing more than a nice afternoon in the woods would be a good starting point business wise?
Tom.
First aid and liability insurance to begin with.( I know you probably know that,sorry).
In the first instance how about targeting absolute beginners with a few hours of basic things.
I've led nature walk type of things before and it's amazing how much you can teach that you think is old hat but the folks are fascinated and grateful for.
Maybe youngsters and families just looking for nothing more than a nice afternoon in the woods would be a good starting point business wise?
Tom.
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All the best with your venture!
I would join the TA.
Maybe offer simple, beginners courses for 16+ unemployed, young offenders, substance abusers in recovery.
I would join the TA.
Maybe offer simple, beginners courses for 16+ unemployed, young offenders, substance abusers in recovery.
Hi, I don't post on here very often but having seen the vid that caused a thread to be locked and thread the replies here I have to comment. I know of lot of people who make their living either/or selling what they make through their skills or teaching others skills. I am also a scout leader.
First of all - in this day and age people do research before they shell out money. Google yourselves, your business name, search your posts on here and any other forums you're a member of. Every single time your name appears that will be what many people judge you on. Whilst it's lovely to think you'll have a chance to meet people face to face and win them over, there will always be customers who can not get to anywhere that they can meet you face to face and they will know of you online. Which is fine, it's good for business. However, at the moment you have an image problem. That you will need to deal with if you wish to convince people to hand over their money. Because if it's there; people will find it. This is business management and marketing. Prince's trust should be able to help you out with this. If nothing else there should be plenty of advice online and in your local library about marketing yourself and your business.
Second. You seriously need to work on your safety skills. I nearly shouted at the computer several times during your vid that I saw. You were lucky you weren't injured. Safety safety safety. It's not good for your image if you injury yourself whilst doing bushcraft. And judging by your technique - it's only a matter of time. Yes whilst you're alone or with your mates you can do things that feel more comfortable, but when you're responsible for others you have to work best practice. So as others have said - learn from others. Either bushcraft courses, or get out as volunteers. It might not be the obvious choice but conservation work can put you in contact with people for whom bushcraft is simply day to day living. I've heard some of my best horror stories of injuries through people who've done or do woodland management. And I've learnt from their mistakes. It also helps you to build up your experience and your wider knowledge. You'll be suprised at the skills of people who volunteer in things as far ranging as reenactment to conservation, especially the older folks who've had decades to polish their skills. Be prepared to observe and listen.
Which brings me onto my third. Your wider knowledge. I don't actually know enough of you to know what your skill base actually is. But I know that people will ask the daftest questions, listen to your information intently, then do it completely differently and you'll need to solve any mistakes for them anyway, or ask you a question you have no idea how to even begin to answer but that you have to find an answer to or you look stupid and will lose business/money. Do consider further education, or if you're not academically minded then do consider joining the TA. Failing the TA the Scout Network for 19-25 year olds.
Which kind of brings me to my last point. Specifically I work in customer service, and you need to give yourself a chance to practise and become comfortable speaking about your subject/s until you run out of breath. You can't say umm. It makes it look like you don't know what you're talking about or that you're making it up as you go along. We've all done the second by the way, the trick is sounding like you're not doing that. Again sadly it's not something that you can learn on a course. I used to be terrible for it but working on the phones full time for the last year, taking somewhere between 50-70 calls a day has helped. And I have to be able to present in my voice that I know what I'm talking about even when I don't, or I suffer verbal abuse. And actually often emotional abuse from my customers too.
I hope you take on board all the advice provided in these comments. Even the ones that don't seem constructive. Ask yourself why people are suggesting this and how you can go about making those changes. Starting a business is hard work. It will take lots of sacrifices. As anyone here who is self-employed will testify. But then, I don't think many of them would swap for a 9-5 either. I wish you luck. No matter who you are, what your background, and what you're trying to sell, starting a business always needs luck. I'm sure if you put the time and effort in you will be able to make a business.
First of all - in this day and age people do research before they shell out money. Google yourselves, your business name, search your posts on here and any other forums you're a member of. Every single time your name appears that will be what many people judge you on. Whilst it's lovely to think you'll have a chance to meet people face to face and win them over, there will always be customers who can not get to anywhere that they can meet you face to face and they will know of you online. Which is fine, it's good for business. However, at the moment you have an image problem. That you will need to deal with if you wish to convince people to hand over their money. Because if it's there; people will find it. This is business management and marketing. Prince's trust should be able to help you out with this. If nothing else there should be plenty of advice online and in your local library about marketing yourself and your business.
Second. You seriously need to work on your safety skills. I nearly shouted at the computer several times during your vid that I saw. You were lucky you weren't injured. Safety safety safety. It's not good for your image if you injury yourself whilst doing bushcraft. And judging by your technique - it's only a matter of time. Yes whilst you're alone or with your mates you can do things that feel more comfortable, but when you're responsible for others you have to work best practice. So as others have said - learn from others. Either bushcraft courses, or get out as volunteers. It might not be the obvious choice but conservation work can put you in contact with people for whom bushcraft is simply day to day living. I've heard some of my best horror stories of injuries through people who've done or do woodland management. And I've learnt from their mistakes. It also helps you to build up your experience and your wider knowledge. You'll be suprised at the skills of people who volunteer in things as far ranging as reenactment to conservation, especially the older folks who've had decades to polish their skills. Be prepared to observe and listen.
Which brings me onto my third. Your wider knowledge. I don't actually know enough of you to know what your skill base actually is. But I know that people will ask the daftest questions, listen to your information intently, then do it completely differently and you'll need to solve any mistakes for them anyway, or ask you a question you have no idea how to even begin to answer but that you have to find an answer to or you look stupid and will lose business/money. Do consider further education, or if you're not academically minded then do consider joining the TA. Failing the TA the Scout Network for 19-25 year olds.
Which kind of brings me to my last point. Specifically I work in customer service, and you need to give yourself a chance to practise and become comfortable speaking about your subject/s until you run out of breath. You can't say umm. It makes it look like you don't know what you're talking about or that you're making it up as you go along. We've all done the second by the way, the trick is sounding like you're not doing that. Again sadly it's not something that you can learn on a course. I used to be terrible for it but working on the phones full time for the last year, taking somewhere between 50-70 calls a day has helped. And I have to be able to present in my voice that I know what I'm talking about even when I don't, or I suffer verbal abuse. And actually often emotional abuse from my customers too.
I hope you take on board all the advice provided in these comments. Even the ones that don't seem constructive. Ask yourself why people are suggesting this and how you can go about making those changes. Starting a business is hard work. It will take lots of sacrifices. As anyone here who is self-employed will testify. But then, I don't think many of them would swap for a 9-5 either. I wish you luck. No matter who you are, what your background, and what you're trying to sell, starting a business always needs luck. I'm sure if you put the time and effort in you will be able to make a business.
Right now, my suggestion would be to ask a Mod if you can change your user name.
Do you really expect to be taken seriously being called DearDeath?
Do you really expect to be taken seriously being called DearDeath?
Siberian Fury + Dear Death...
My thoughts and advice would be not only concentrate on the bush side of things but you'll in theory be operating a business. So you'll need to learn some basic business practices like basic book keeping, invoicing, a bit of basic marketing. Your liabilities as a business, taxation etc. All the boring non Bush stuff...
The reality is you have to spend a lot of time on your business as well as in business. It takes a lot of work.
I'd spend time researching what your legal requirements will be to operate the type of business you intend to.
Operating with clients 18+ is one thing, operating with clients less than 18 is another entirely.
Perhaps talking to the folks at the Adventure Activities Licencing Authority would be a good start.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/aala/
You might consider future proofing your business by getting a broard range of qualifications in the outdoors sector, Say Summer ML, SPA, A BCU qualification. That way you can offer a wider variety of activities apart from Bushcraft related ones. But you'll need to get experience in those types of pursuits.
Or you could complete a fast track course...
PYB offer those and are a very good provider with an excellent reputation.
http://www.pyb.co.uk/courses/fast-track.php
There is a lot of good advice given on this thread.
Outdoor instruction and in particular being responsible for clients under 18 is a very big responsibility. But it's also a very rewarding one.
I hope this is of some help...
Cheers
John
My thoughts and advice would be not only concentrate on the bush side of things but you'll in theory be operating a business. So you'll need to learn some basic business practices like basic book keeping, invoicing, a bit of basic marketing. Your liabilities as a business, taxation etc. All the boring non Bush stuff...
The reality is you have to spend a lot of time on your business as well as in business. It takes a lot of work.
I'd spend time researching what your legal requirements will be to operate the type of business you intend to.
Operating with clients 18+ is one thing, operating with clients less than 18 is another entirely.
Perhaps talking to the folks at the Adventure Activities Licencing Authority would be a good start.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/aala/
You might consider future proofing your business by getting a broard range of qualifications in the outdoors sector, Say Summer ML, SPA, A BCU qualification. That way you can offer a wider variety of activities apart from Bushcraft related ones. But you'll need to get experience in those types of pursuits.
Or you could complete a fast track course...
PYB offer those and are a very good provider with an excellent reputation.
http://www.pyb.co.uk/courses/fast-track.php
There is a lot of good advice given on this thread.
Outdoor instruction and in particular being responsible for clients under 18 is a very big responsibility. But it's also a very rewarding one.
I hope this is of some help...
Cheers
John
Hi guys.
For starters, I think the Idea is superb! Unfortunately you are about 10 years before your time, In my honest opinion.
I'll use this as an example as it's much the same. I run my own Close Protection company. Due to the nature of the job the demands are extremely high and range from the basics, like solid commuincation skills to the extremes of being able to handle and use a firearm.
If an 18 year old chap with "some" experience came to me looking for a job, i would give him a bloody good boot up the backside for starters. I'd tell him to get some "live" experience within the Uk forces then come back to me in 4-8 years. I'd then look at listening to him.
Unfortunately for you guys. You are in the same position. Enjoy your teens whilst you can. Maybe get some experience with the Armed Forces. if this isn't an option for either of you. Seriously look into completing as many courses as you can in civvi street. Afterall you don't have to have served with the forces to know bushcraft or survival!
Live experience coupled with a good CV which includes all the courses needed and more will get you business.
Remember in business your reputation is everything. You've put your reputation in the red by posting this thread in my opinion.
I really do hope this works out for you. I'd take note of what alot of these guys are saying.
Thanks guys and good luck!
For starters, I think the Idea is superb! Unfortunately you are about 10 years before your time, In my honest opinion.
I'll use this as an example as it's much the same. I run my own Close Protection company. Due to the nature of the job the demands are extremely high and range from the basics, like solid commuincation skills to the extremes of being able to handle and use a firearm.
If an 18 year old chap with "some" experience came to me looking for a job, i would give him a bloody good boot up the backside for starters. I'd tell him to get some "live" experience within the Uk forces then come back to me in 4-8 years. I'd then look at listening to him.
Unfortunately for you guys. You are in the same position. Enjoy your teens whilst you can. Maybe get some experience with the Armed Forces. if this isn't an option for either of you. Seriously look into completing as many courses as you can in civvi street. Afterall you don't have to have served with the forces to know bushcraft or survival!
Live experience coupled with a good CV which includes all the courses needed and more will get you business.
Remember in business your reputation is everything. You've put your reputation in the red by posting this thread in my opinion.
I really do hope this works out for you. I'd take note of what alot of these guys are saying.
Thanks guys and good luck!
robin wood
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
To continue with the positive turn in the thread what attributes do folk look for in their bushcraft instructors? If you are one of those folk that spend your hard won cash on courses how do you choose? Do you look for a nice location somewhere you haven't been before? Are you looking to hone a particular skill and look for someone who is a specialist at that skill? Do folk go on a general introductory course and then keep going back for more from the same folk because you like them? Do you choose on the basis of website? How do you judge and what do you look for? Is cost a factor or class size? Do you want to see military training or many years experience and how do you tell folk are not stretching the truth with their claimed credentials?
And back to the original question, forgetting for now about whether or not you think the guys are up to it yet do you think there are any niches in the market that have not been filled yet? Particular skills or groups of people that could benefit from them.
And back to the original question, forgetting for now about whether or not you think the guys are up to it yet do you think there are any niches in the market that have not been filled yet? Particular skills or groups of people that could benefit from them.
In answer to your question Robin, it's knowledge, experience and reputation that I look for in someone instructing me.
The good thing is your at a good point to plan your future, so instead of starting your business in 6/12/24...months why not instead plan you quals and work your way into the sector buy means of getting the recognised certs over the next few years, this way your not only gain a fantastic skills base but you'll have the opportunity to observe other instructors teaching practises the good and the bad, see how they run there schools and courses, once up to the higher levels even work for a few of them, different schools operate in different season's offering different skills.
like others have said , good luck to you guys, and remember, HAVE FUN!
like others have said , good luck to you guys, and remember, HAVE FUN!
Hi, I have just skimmed through this whole thread, and first off have to say that I know nothing of either of you.
Business wise, and reading comments in this thread, you need to totally revise your attitude. Starting a sentence with 'So' will result in you not being taken seriously. Also answering a comment with 'I am first aid trained mate' is a bit childish, and bearing in mind some of your potential clients will be reading your reply, it was fool hardy too.
What first aid qualification do you have, and is it even appropriate for the venture you wish to start? Do, some research on first aid courses, as ones such as 'first aid at work' will not cover you, neither will St Johns certs.
Something more relevant would be a first aid (incident management) course, which is a NVQ 2 outdoor first aid course.
Are you both CRB enhanced checked? You will need to be to carry on at all.
Do you have 'female cover' so that your kids courses can be run?
I can see no reason to join the TA, as this will not teach you any bushcraft, and the advice to join the scouts will be much more fruitful.
I also don't know of the bushcraft course some posters are asking you take to get ideas, but do know that this site looks in on itself very often......There are hundreds of courses out there, and to be honest, taking good as well as bad ones is not too bad an idea, so you could see what works and what doesn't.
There are many pitfalls in starting a new bushcraft business, and I have seen many of them first hand, as I was involved in the concept and then start up of a bushcraft company. many bushcraft instructors have no teaching qualifications at all, but do have the ability to teach or impart knowledge...Do you have this quality?
IF you wanted me to part with hard earned money to go on one of your courses, or invest in your venture, and assuming I was not put off by a ludicrous avatar (with 'death' in), would I be inspired by your videos that other posters have seen?
If we looked at a very basis lecture such as using a bow drill, and I was a curious student who asked you to make one there and then, could you do it?
Could you make one without using a knife or commercial string/cordage?
You do seem young, and should ideally spend some more time perfecting skills, so that your future students have total belief in you. I remember attending a 'wild food' lecture from a young 'expert' who obviously knew very little on his subject. He was teaching some army cadets about hawthorn trees, and pointed out that you could eat the trees berries when they were in season....As the cadets would be needing to find their own food, I did have to add that they could also eat the leaves too (a 1000% increase in edible food). At this point the instructor lost the confidence of the cadets.
This site is a very easy going one, and lots of poor knowledge can be forgiven, but you will not find this in the business world, and so even the basics, such as starting a sentence with 'So' need to be looked at. Sorry to repeat that, but if you don't get past that level, you will have no chance at all!
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If I can just quote Robin:
To continue with the positive turn in the thread what attributes do folk look for in their bushcraft instructors? If you are one of those folk that spend your hard won cash on courses how do you choose? Do you look for a nice location somewhere you haven't been before? Are you looking to hone a particular skill and look for someone who is a specialist at that skill? Do folk go on a general introductory course and then keep going back for more from the same folk because you like them? Do you choose on the basis of website? How do you judge and what do you look for? Is cost a factor or class size? Do you want to see military training or many years experience and how do you tell folk are not stretching the truth with their claimed credentials?
And back to the original question, forgetting for now about whether or not you think the guys are up to it yet do you think there are any niches in the market that have not been filled yet? Particular skills or groups of people that could benefit from them.
All or some of this may be true for adults, but does not apply to schools or kids courses, but the points on professionalism and attitude will make all the difference. Schools and organised groups deal with professional instructors/teachers all the time, and will not be fooled by amateurs.
Business wise, and reading comments in this thread, you need to totally revise your attitude. Starting a sentence with 'So' will result in you not being taken seriously. Also answering a comment with 'I am first aid trained mate
' is a bit childish, and bearing in mind some of your potential clients will be reading your reply, it was fool hardy too.What first aid qualification do you have, and is it even appropriate for the venture you wish to start? Do, some research on first aid courses, as ones such as 'first aid at work' will not cover you, neither will St Johns certs.
Something more relevant would be a first aid (incident management) course, which is a NVQ 2 outdoor first aid course.
Are you both CRB enhanced checked? You will need to be to carry on at all.
Do you have 'female cover' so that your kids courses can be run?
I can see no reason to join the TA, as this will not teach you any bushcraft, and the advice to join the scouts will be much more fruitful.
I also don't know of the bushcraft course some posters are asking you take to get ideas, but do know that this site looks in on itself very often......There are hundreds of courses out there, and to be honest, taking good as well as bad ones is not too bad an idea, so you could see what works and what doesn't.
There are many pitfalls in starting a new bushcraft business, and I have seen many of them first hand, as I was involved in the concept and then start up of a bushcraft company. many bushcraft instructors have no teaching qualifications at all, but do have the ability to teach or impart knowledge...Do you have this quality?
IF you wanted me to part with hard earned money to go on one of your courses, or invest in your venture, and assuming I was not put off by a ludicrous avatar (with 'death' in), would I be inspired by your videos that other posters have seen?
If we looked at a very basis lecture such as using a bow drill, and I was a curious student who asked you to make one there and then, could you do it?
Could you make one without using a knife or commercial string/cordage?
You do seem young, and should ideally spend some more time perfecting skills, so that your future students have total belief in you. I remember attending a 'wild food' lecture from a young 'expert' who obviously knew very little on his subject. He was teaching some army cadets about hawthorn trees, and pointed out that you could eat the trees berries when they were in season....As the cadets would be needing to find their own food, I did have to add that they could also eat the leaves too (a 1000% increase in edible food). At this point the instructor lost the confidence of the cadets.
This site is a very easy going one, and lots of poor knowledge can be forgiven, but you will not find this in the business world, and so even the basics, such as starting a sentence with 'So' need to be looked at. Sorry to repeat that, but if you don't get past that level, you will have no chance at all!
Edited to add:
If I can just quote Robin:
To continue with the positive turn in the thread what attributes do folk look for in their bushcraft instructors? If you are one of those folk that spend your hard won cash on courses how do you choose? Do you look for a nice location somewhere you haven't been before? Are you looking to hone a particular skill and look for someone who is a specialist at that skill? Do folk go on a general introductory course and then keep going back for more from the same folk because you like them? Do you choose on the basis of website? How do you judge and what do you look for? Is cost a factor or class size? Do you want to see military training or many years experience and how do you tell folk are not stretching the truth with their claimed credentials?
And back to the original question, forgetting for now about whether or not you think the guys are up to it yet do you think there are any niches in the market that have not been filled yet? Particular skills or groups of people that could benefit from them.
All or some of this may be true for adults, but does not apply to schools or kids courses, but the points on professionalism and attitude will make all the difference. Schools and organised groups deal with professional instructors/teachers all the time, and will not be fooled by amateurs.
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Paganwolf
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Bushcraft instructors courses arnt worth the paper they are printed on, proper instruction and lots of practice is needed, and hands on experience is key, I know:togo: some one who did an "instructors course" who can't make 2 inches of cordage properly or butcher a bunny you know who you are pmsl And I have great respect for he guy as he himself will freely admit it, and he has the two rare qualities that with time will make him a good instructor that many lack, he is humble and honest..
You can't teach life (life is bushcraft to some eh) in a short space of time but the foundation can be laid, give it time guys don't rush into instructing it can sod up a perfectly good hobby. Josh buddy don't worry The force will grow with in you young Jedi yessssssssssss, good ol yoda eh Nuff said....
you know who you are pmsl And I have great respect for he guy as he himself will freely admit it, and he has the two rare qualities that with time will make him a good instructor that many lack, he is humble and honest..You can't teach life (life is bushcraft to some eh) in a short space of time but the foundation can be laid, give it time guys don't rush into instructing it can sod up a perfectly good hobby. Josh buddy don't worry The force will grow with in you young Jedi yessssssssssss, good ol yoda eh
Nuff said....
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This is my first post in this forum,and what i would like to say is your never too young to learn i do gamekeepering part time and unpaid, my mate is a keeper on a estate in aberdeenshire now my mate is 46 and i am 33 now from the age of 13 i have been gamekeepering with him now my point is was i too young to learn about gamekeepering and how to handle firearms etc etc at that age?? So imo give these guy a chance to prove them selfs, after all its these guys that carry the can for the future of bushcraft and field sports.
Regards
Neil
Regards
Neil
I do alot of game shooting, Large and small. (that's an understatement actually) I help out the local Game keepers, under keepers and Deer keepers where i can. (current baby is a Remington 700 lvsf .308
)When you say, were you to young to handle firearms...In the right hands, Ofcourse not. I Would accompany my Father everywhere with my unloaded Shotgun whilst he stalked deer. I didn't know it at the time but he was teaching me safe handling. Once i proved myself to him i took my first pheasant.
The difference between learning game keeping skills like;
Keeping the hopper's topped up. Grading, hatching and realeasing Poult's to the pens then ultimately organising a driven shoot to take them, doesn't take alot of teaching.
Bushcraft involves various area's of extreme danger;
Wild Edibles
River Crossings
Fire
Taking small game to cook
Muck some of the above up and you are going to be dealing with a serious injury or, heaven forbid, a fatality. Muck another up and you will end up in court with an animal cruelty charge on your backside.
They have alot to learn. Period.
I'm still extremely please to have read this thread this evening. It's great to see young people with a plan for a change.
Wishing you both the very best once again.
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I would like to know what do you think would make you stand out ? why would people want to learn from two young lads that
are obviously lacking experience when they can learn from woodlore or woodsmoke or half a dozen other schools with good instructors
and good reputations?.
Swagman
are obviously lacking experience when they can learn from woodlore or woodsmoke or half a dozen other schools with good instructors
and good reputations?.
Swagman
BOD
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
How did kids learn bushcraft in the past?
From Dad, an older brother or another kid who knew a thing or two. I think it ruins the spirit if one expects first aid, and certified bushcraft skills, insurance etc. just to show skills to someone
The scouts suggestion is a good one. Offer your skills for free to groups and clubs and learn that way avoiding the commercialism. Don't spoil the fun by making it a job. If you go commercial you will be held to a far higher standard in terms of skills and libility
From Dad, an older brother or another kid who knew a thing or two. I think it ruins the spirit if one expects first aid, and certified bushcraft skills, insurance etc. just to show skills to someone
The scouts suggestion is a good one. Offer your skills for free to groups and clubs and learn that way avoiding the commercialism. Don't spoil the fun by making it a job. If you go commercial you will be held to a far higher standard in terms of skills and libility
Hi Bod,
I agree that it's good to learn from your peers. Indeed that's how the vast majority of tribal systems work.
I've learnt a heap from peers in all sorts of outdoor contexts.
However to be fair the OP did say they were wanting to set up a company and deliver instruction.
Also there are a lot of volunteer organisations that provide instruction to a very high professional standard.
swagman said:
I don't think age of the instructor pool is actually a barrier.
It depends largely on who the client group is.
I think you're 'less' likely to be sucessful in attracting 25-45 yo 'experienced' bushcrafters as clients. But if you have the qualifications,experience and safety systems in place and are perhaps audited then instructing young people under 18 is less of a barrier IMHO.
The key is getting the qualifications, experience and safety systems in place and making it into a marketable business.
A while ago we discussed the following business here on the forum
http://www.thebushcraftcompany.com/
from memory they were looking specifically for young instructors so thay they would have an affinity with the client groups they are aiming at.
Cheers
John
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