58 PAttern Canteen pouch.... alternatives

[MrEd]

Anyone got any suggestions as an alternative pouch for a 58 pattern bottle and mug , rather than the issue style pouches (either 58 pattern, or osprey in MTP) neither of which i want.

I am looking for something that will go on the front molle/pals panel on my lowe alpine sting and fit the 58 pattern water bottle and mug. Any one got any pointers?

Doesnt have to be a dedicated water bottle type pouch, utility pouches etc that would fit would work also.

I dont want to order somthing and then find it doesnt fit etc.

thanks
Ed

 

[JonathanD]

Viper used to do a great one. Inner pocket for a lid, full molle and straps on the back.

 

[MrEd]

that the sort of thing i am looking for, i came across the Helikon-Tex E&E pouch which looks similar but wasnt sure if it would fit or not

 

[JonathanD]

I saw one of those last week in person. I think it is the same size.

 

[MrEd]

I saw one of those last week in person. I think it is the same size.

thanks Johnathan, I will take a punt and order from HH - they have a superb return policy if it doesn’t fit

 

[bigjackbrass]

i came across the Helikon-Tex E&E pouch which looks similar

I have one of those attached to my pack. Just setting up at work right now, but give me an hour and I'll see if I can check whether everything fits in.

 

[bigjackbrass]

OK, the Crusader 1 kit - cooker stand, metal cup, canteen and plastic mug - will all fit in the Helikon E&E pouch quite comfortably. The inside slip pockets can catch on the metal cup as it slides in, but otherwise it's fine. There's a little space left at the sides to add small items. Obviously if you're not using the full kit then it will be an easier fit.

 

[MrEd]

OK, the Crusader 1 kit - cooker stand, metal cup, canteen and plastic mug - will all fit in the Helikon E&E pouch quite comfortably. The inside slip pockets can catch on the metal cup as it slides in, but otherwise it's fine. There's a little space left at the sides to add small items. Obviously if you're not using the full kit then it will be an easier fit.

That’s Great thanks, just the bottle and mug - will that slip about? I.e be to loose a fit?

Any chance of a photo?
Thanks
Ed

 

[bigjackbrass]

The bottle and mug together are a nice easy fit. There's a little extra room and some slight chance of the odd rattle, but if you have anything in the inside pockets it will fill that space.

Photos: the complete Crusader system in the pouch, lid closed to show fit; bottle and metal mug; bottle and plastic mug. Hope that helps.

 

[Erbswurst]

What's wrong with the issued Osprey MTP bottle pouch? Just the camo pattern or something else?

 

[JonathanD]

What's wrong with the issued Osprey MTP bottle pouch? Just the camo pattern or something else?

It’s huge.

 

[Erbswurst]

What? The issued MTP pouch doesn't fit the issued two mugs and bottle correctly? Does it fit well with the nesting stove?
Does the issued MTP utility pouch fit better?

I recently bought both pouches and think about buying bottle, both mugs and perhaps the nesting stove too.

But if it doesn't fit I probably will buy rather US army mug and bottle that seem to fit together very well into the British MTP utility pouch.

 

[JonathanD]

Unless they’ve changed them recently, they are much bigger than the alternatives shown above. You can fit rat packs in there with the full set. The US set is smaller than the crusader set, so there will be even more room with that.

 

[bigjackbrass]

I will take a punt and order from HH

You might want to compare with The Bushcraft Store - £24.95 + p&p there.

 

[Barney Rubble]

The Helikon Tex Essential Kit bag is worth a look too. The crusader mug, bottle fits nicely and you have a couple of extra pockets on the side for your tea bags!

 

[JonathanD]

I’ll get one of those as a spare. Looks like the perfect fit.

 

[MrEd]

The bottle and mug together are a nice easy fit. There's a little extra room and some slight chance of the odd rattle, but if you have anything in the inside pockets it will fill that space.

Photos: the complete Crusader system in the pouch, lid closed to show fit; bottle and metal mug; bottle and plastic mug. Hope that helps.

yeah that’s ace - exactly what I was looking for and definitely room for brew kit etc. Thank you very much!

 

[MrEd]

What's wrong with the issued Osprey MTP bottle pouch? Just the camo pattern or something else?

I don’t want the camo pattern, and when I was looking at them at capel show recently I realised they are actually quite big. Bigger than I was wanting

 

[MrEd]

I’ll get one of those as a spare. Looks like the perfect fit.

the E&E or the essential kit bag?

 

[ONE]

The BCB one is bomb proof, will take crusader cooker, 58 bottle with both cups and the fire hanger bracket without too much persuasion. It's PLCE fitting though.