Camo-tarp, which one to choose?

[DutchWalker]

This summer I bought a DD hammock for myself and having been using it since. I'm using it with a flecktarn tarp, which is very heavy (around 1.4-1.5 kg). This is rather unpleasant so I'm looking for a new tarp.

I've got a couple of requirements:

- camouflage-pattern
- lightweight (900 grams max)
- minimum size 2x3 although 3x3 is preferred.

I already did some research and found these:

- DD multicam: was very tempted, but is a no-go mainly because of the repeating pattern
- UKMCPRO Elite evolution: cannot find reviews on it, so I'm very hesistant about ordering one.
- Webtex-basha: found a review on youtube, looks ok (although a little small)

In short, could you give me more options to consider?

 

[resnikov]

I have the DD cam tarp and have found when pitched in the woods the repeat on the pattern isnt to bad. It does look odd close up but from a distance its fine. Will try and dig a pic out when I get home.

 

[spandit]

What about a lightweight camo net over the top?

 

[jacko1066]

I could be wrong mate bit I don't think the webtex basha would be big enough. I have the army surplus version it's based on and when I looked at getting hammock ti go under it I was informed by a couple of very experienced tree swingers that it would be no where near big enough.
So I would say 3x3 minimum tbh!!
Cheers
Steve

 

[sasquatch]

Those Aussie bashas look nice, endorsed by Uncle Ray as well...

 

[DutchWalker]

Hmm, I thought the webtex might be too small, so that's not going to be the one then.

And I also rather not use a tarp + camonet. I'd have to put two things up (even if just throwing it over the tarp) and it looks (imo ) very aggressive.

The Ray Mears / Aussie basha might be an option, although it's relatively expensive.

 

[EdS]

Aussie one from Kitbag in Oz.

http://www.kitbag.com.au/products/Auscam-Hoochie.html

 

[santaman2000]

Two of the ones on the top row here might fit your needs www.bushcraftoutfitters.com/BCUSA-Tarps

 

[spandit]

And I also rather not use a tarp + camonet...and it looks (imo ) very aggressive.

Who's going to see it? Isn't that the whole point?

 

[DutchWalker]

Two of the ones on the top row here might fit your needs www.bushcraftoutfitters.com/BCUSA-Tarps

I like the UL 10x10, both in woodland and in multicam. Multicam is almost twice as much though. And I need to pay shipping (~35-40) and VAT (€12,5 + 19% of tarp price). So unless they have a European dealer it's a bit too much.

 

[Johnnyboy1971]

Im now using the issue basha/stretcher in DPM and dessert and there big enough to cover my travel hammock.
I was using the DD3x3 but decided to swap as its a little too big when ground dwelling.

 

[santaman2000]

I like the UL 10x10, both in woodland and in multicam. Multicam is almost twice as much though. And I need to pay shipping (~35-40) and VAT (€12,5 + 19% of tarp price). So unless they have a European dealer it's a bit too much.

Yeah even here, I'm unimpressed with the price on the multicam.

 

[DutchWalker]

Thanks for all the suggestions and ideas.

Found another one:

http://www.bcbin.com/products/product_details.php?category=bushcraft&product=Bivouac

The fox basha. It's relatively large (2 x 3), in dpm and weighs 700 grams. It also has 16 suspension points. But I can only find one review (on youtube). I will search for more.

 

[Lore]

I can recommend the UKMCpro Elite Basha, I have used it almost every month for the last few years very strong , although it weighs in at around 1-1.1kg , the fox is also a quality bit of kit. I tried looking for a lighter tarp than the Elite evolution for a trip to Sweden this year and could not decide on an alternative so I took the one I have. I knew I could rely on it.

 

[Noddy]

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[Highbinder]

I could be wrong mate bit I don't think the webtex basha would be big enough. I have the army surplus version it's based on and when I looked at getting hammock ti go under it I was informed by a couple of very experienced tree swingers that it would be no where near big enough.
So I would say 3x3 minimum tbh!!
Cheers
Steve

Hanging a basha or poncho on the diagonal will give you your required ridgeline coverage. It does not however give you much cover on the sides. In the summer (even later in the year) I use a golite poncho set up on the diagonal to cover my hammock, it's taken two thunderstorms too and both times performed really well.

It weighs 210 grams and dimensions its 8’8″ x 4’10″ (copypasta from google) which is 2.6m by 1.4m or 2.95m on the diagonal.

How much are you willing to spend? Is camo a deal breaker? I can think of a couple of popular OD hammock tarps.

 

[DutchWalker]

Hanging a basha or poncho on the diagonal will give you your required ridgeline coverage. It does not however give you much cover on the sides. In the summer (even later in the year) I use a golite poncho set up on the diagonal to cover my hammock, it's taken two thunderstorms too and both times performed really well.

It weighs 210 grams and dimensions its 8’8″ x 4’10″ (copypasta from google) which is 2.6m by 1.4m or 2.95m on the diagonal.

How much are you willing to spend? Is camo a deal breaker? I can think of a couple of popular OD hammock tarps.

I would prefer camo but if needed I would pick OD too. My budget isn't fixed but (obviously, I'm still Dutch ) cheaper is better. Set the maximum at € 75. Have to go to work but I'll make a list of all the things suggested alongs with pro's and con's.

 

[tartanferret]

If you can live without a cammo pattern,

you mentioned the Fox basha, there was one for sale on here a while back
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94953&highlight=basha

Perhaps it's still available?

 

[DutchWalker]

As promised, a lil' comparison:

DD 3x3 (~€ 35):
-Multicam:
pro’s: has camo, cheap, light (720g), large
con’s: repeating pattern, reduced number of attachment points
-Olive:
pro’s: cheap, light (720g), large
con’s: no camo

UKMCPRO (~35):
- Elite Evolution Basha:
pro’s: available in dpm/CE/multicam camo, cheap
con’s: 3x3 is heavy (1.1 kg), 2x3 acceptable weight (850g)

BCUSA tarps:
- UL Multicam 10x10 (feet, so 3x3m)
Pro’s: genuine multicam, light (540g)
Con’s: very expensive ($ 136, plus shipping, VAT & import cost from USA)
- Woodland (3x3m)
Pro’s: woodland camo, acceptable weight (850g)
Con’s: price ($ 73 plus shipping, VAT & import cost from USA)

Auscam hoochie:
pro’s: fairly cheap (50 AUSD)
con’s: small (2,85x1,85m), auscam, shipping, VAT & import cost costs a bundle

BCB
- Fox basha (~€65)
pro’s: camo woodland, light (700g)
con’s: only in 3x2m

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[TR]
[TD]Brand type[/TD]
[TD]Size (m)[/TD]
[TD]Weight (g)[/TD]
[TD]Price (ex shipping, import & VAT when imported)[/TD]
[TD]Colours[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]DD 3x3[/TD]
[TD]3x3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]720[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 35[/TD]
[TD]Multicam/Coyote/OD[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]UKMCPRO EEB 3x3[/TD]
[TD]3x3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1100[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 40[/TD]
[TD]Multicam/DPM/CE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]UKMCPRO EEB 3x2[/TD]
[TD]3x2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]850[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 33[/TD]
[TD]Multicam/DPM/CE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]BCUSA UL MTC[/TD]
[TD]3x3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]540[/TD]
[TD]$ 136[/TD]
[TD]Multicam (genuine)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]BCUSA Woodland[/TD]
[TD]3x3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]850[/TD]
[TD]$ 73[/TD]
[TD]Woodland[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Auscam hoochie[/TD]
[TD]2,85x1,85[/TD]
[TD]n/a[/TD]
[TD]50 AUSD[/TD]
[TD]Auscam[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]BCB Fox Basha[/TD]
[TD]3x2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]700[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 65[/TD]
[TD]DPM[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

It got a bit mingled but is still readable, I think .
After looking at this, it seems a stupid idea to choose anything other than the DD tarp. Because it's cheap, light and large. Probably gonna do that, but more suggestions are always appreciated.

 

[Retired Member southey]

A Brit issue basha rigged on the diagonal will cover my dd hammock and give a good simple living space, I dont like the dd tarps as the maerial is horrid and sounds like crisp packets in anything above a breeze,

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