Naked Rambler Lock him up or let him roam free?

[Toddy]

Hey, if it works, why not ?

M

 

[British Red]

Has to be better than Pavlov's nudist. You really wouldn't want to ring that bell!

 

[Retired Member southey]

Has to be better than Pavlov's nudist. You really wouldn't want to ring that bell!

Hahahahaha!nooooooooo

 

[bushwacker bob]

Get your coat, you've pulled.

 

[Imagedude]

I can see his point...

 

[British Red]

Beats hanging out seaweed to check the weather!

 

[Tengu]

I dont see what kids have to do with this; they are the sector of society most likley to not fuss and treat him with the contempt he deserves.

Making a fuss over sexuality is likley to scar kids...Being naked is nothing to do with sex. (ask my prudish naturist friends, who, BTW, are not on this guys side.)

Im not in favour of breastfeeding in public; (unless very discrete) I am against all agressive displays of motherhood.

Besides, I was bottlefed.

 

[mrcharly]

Im not in favour of breastfeeding in public; (unless very discrete) I am against all agressive displays of motherhood.

One of the great oxymorons of all time.

 

[Humpback]

Well, if I met him whilst out I'd have to cover my son's eyes after all I don't want my 30 year old corrupting

 

[boatman]

I can think of a lot more disgusting things one sees in public that are ignored than someone with no clothes on. Spitting and gobbing on the pavement should lead to instant arrest for example or at least be grounds for a breach of the peace. Why not punch one of these offenders rather than nudists if you must vent your bile on someone? Footballers should be sent straight off the pitch for the offence and maybe the lack of their example might start breaking kids of the habit. One reason for discouraging it in former years was the spread of TB which is now back amongst us.

 

[Laurentius]

The problem is, when a line is drawn THAT close to sexual deviancy and social acceptance then it's extremely difficult for the powers that be to regulate those laws.


Right now if a guy walks past a school naked someone would call the cops and he'd be jailed for indecency.

If we take on your opinions (those that are all for it in general) then that safety net is gone.
In that world the person would have to show some just cause of sexual deviancy before they were arrested.

In my world just walking past a school naked should be classed as illegal, i'd vote for that with a smile on my face.


Violence would not be my first an only response.
I would warn him, tell him to step away from my kids or cover up, if he didn't then i'd prepare myself as best a 13 stone 42 year old bloke could to reduce him being risk to my kids.
If he started approaching them and got close enough for me to take violent action then i would try my best to remove the threat.

The outcome is not set in stone, it might well be me that comes to the most harm, i'd certainly try my best to remove the risk though.


Call me a optimist but i don't think there is a court in Europe that'd see me guilty of anything but trying to protect my kids.
Why do i believe that?

Because i believe that the vast vast vast majority of people would see walking round on a public footpath naked as weird at best sexually deviant at worst.

I can recall at a swimming baths I used to use, a father bringing his very young daughter into the male changing room where she was certain to be confronted with dangling penises. He clearly did not think that improper. Perhaps his only alternative would have been to take her into the ladies changing room, which I guess would have been objected to. The notice only says that children over eight should use a gender appropriate changing room.

 

[cbr6fs]

I can recall at a swimming baths I used to use, a father bringing his very young daughter into the male changing room where she was certain to be confronted with dangling penises. He clearly did not think that improper. Perhaps his only alternative would have been to take her into the ladies changing room, which I guess would have been objected to. The notice only says that children over eight should use a gender appropriate changing room.

My daughter is 11.
If the guy took a 11 year old girl into the mens changing room then he needs his testicles cutting off so he cannot breed again and his kids need to be looked after by someone that has some sense of responsibility.


Just to be clear, my kids do see half naked folks and topless women on the beach most days during the summer.
It's to be expected and i do not fear for them nor find it offensive in certain settings.

The difference is, these people have a logical reason for being half naked and they're not approaching my kids.


A guy walking round country footpaths in the middle of day on a cold and windy day stark bollock naked rings alarm bells to me.
He might be mentally ill, he might be a pervert, he might well be harmless.

Personally i'm not willing to give him the benefit of doubt if being wrong puts my kids in danger.

 

[Laurentius]

My daughter is 11.
If the guy took a 11 year old girl into the mens changing room then he needs his testicles cutting off so he cannot breed again and his kids need to be looked after by someone that has some sense of responsibility.


Just to be clear, my kids do see half naked folks and topless women on the beach most days during the summer.
It's to be expected and i do not fear for them nor find it offensive in certain settings.

The difference is, these people have a logical reason for being half naked and they're not approaching my kids.


A guy walking round country footpaths in the middle of day on a cold and windy day stark bollock naked rings alarm bells to me.
He might be mentally ill, he might be a pervert, he might well be harmless.

Personally i'm not willing to give him the benefit of doubt if being wrong puts my kids in danger.

I thought that dad's judgement questionable at the time. As for Mr Gough, I don't have a problem with him being stark bollock naked in any weather so long as he is miles from anywhere where he can be seen. I once had the misfortune to see his fellow nudist fanatic Vincent Bethel walking down the middle of Coventry precinct completely starkers. What the point of that was I have no idea.

 

[Retired Member southey]

I thought that dad's judgement questionable at the time. As for Mr Gough, I don't have a problem with him being stark bollock naked in any weather so long as he is miles from anywhere where he can be seen. I once had the misfortune to see his fellow nudist fanatic Vincent Bethel walking down the middle of Coventry precinct completely starkers. What the point of that was I have no idea.

probably getting 20 L and B and a paper

 

[British Red]

I wonder where he shoved the change?

 

[xylaria]

It is quite common to see nuturist on beaches near where i live. I been to tipi valley were nudisim is pretty normal. I really cant see how a naked adult body that is just walking about is a threat to children. Not meaning to be crude but a naked bloke is more vunerable than a clothed one, and if there is any wierd ideas about kids or whatever it is harder from him to hide them.

 

[boatman]

Where in Britain is there a Public Swimming Baths without cubicles? Or do you all enjoy parading around outside the cubicles with your dangles on view to be admired? Some times a Father will bring a young girl into a Male WC which is embarrassing but you wonder what the lone parent is to do if say a changing room loo is not available.

 

[santaman2000]

...Just to be clear, my kids do see half naked folks and topless women on the beach most days during the summer.
It's to be expected and i do not fear for them nor find it offensive in certain settings.

The difference is, these people have a logical reason for being half naked and they're not approaching my kids.


A guy walking round country footpaths in the middle of day on a cold and windy day stark bollock naked rings alarm bells to me.
He might be mentally ill, he might be a pervert, he might well be harmless...

Herein lies the basis for both arguements. I don't think anyone here is going to argue that one area (the beach) partial nudity is some what socially accepted (at least in Europe) whereas it generally isn't on a Scottish village street.

The one side argues that the offender is violating social norms; probably just to prove a point and without regard for said norms and could choose a more appropriate area where he wouldn't bother anyone. Whereas the other argues that those very social norms are wrong in and of themselves and unneccessarily restrictive of his rights.

Does anyone really believe they're going to convert the other side?

 

[xylaria]

Does anyone really believe they're going to convert the other side?

Very good point, no I dont think I am going to covert anyone. Even myself, I wouldn't walk naked through scotland even if someone payed me, crickey I wouldn't walk naked full stop. Midge, cold, sheepticks and just my own pure pudishness, it aint going to happen. Scotland will never be top spot for naked ramblers for these reasons.

However if one man can be repeatly held in custody for a beach of peace, then we all could. It doesn't matter what you think of nudity, it what you think of freedom. My point is the sight of mans dangles less offensive than injustice. There is another case in scotland of robert green, he is again been held for breach of the peace. He campiagned on behalf of girl that victim of paedophile ring called holly grieg. Her family believe there was members of parlement and the high court jugdes involved. There is some doubts in the case. If a state isnt challanged when it abuses the freedom of one man, the state will abuse the freedom of all.

 

[boatman]

A prime example why localism is a very wrong policy. This will only get worse with English community kangaroo courts. Where we have to ask is Liberty, the organisation, more important i would suggest than their normal cases. The worst oppression is legal oppression because the victim has nowhere to turn. Even in Tudor times we had the Star Chamber to curb overmighty subjects.