Woodland Custodianship

Broch

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Sometimes the plan goes out of the window due to weather, other draws on my time (such as the missus' hip op) and 'events'. In this case the high winds we've had. I'll post about some of the damage in the large wood later but, this oversized game of pick-up-sticks may amuse:)

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These are all youngish ash. The largest is about 200mm diameter and they've been uprooted by a gust. Unfortunately, they are at the bottom of a 30 deg slope covered in bramble. I do nearly all this work on my own and, not only is it tiring, but I am constantly carrying out the 'what if?' safety assessments.

First task was to clear a route down and around the fallen trees with the bush-cutter. Not at all easy as the trailing bramble contrives to trip you at every step and throw you down the slope. This is no time to lock the bush-cutter throttle on; I need it to stop spinning if I fall!

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Once a safe and clear access was cut I needed to cut and winch the trees up the slope. The trees were at right-angles to the direction I needed to winch and there was no clear path so I had to use a pulley to offset the direction - this meant doing each tree in two stages, and more walking up and down the greasy clay wet slope; by now it was like a toboggan run :(

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The winch was secured to a large tree at the top of the slope and I brought the cut trees up one by one. The winch is too heavy to cart up and down the slope so that stays at the top and the pulley used to change direction as needed.

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First one up! :) - notice the use of a tightening/choking chain. This device, if you've not used one, makes the job much quicker, easier, and safer. It also prevents your winch rope getting worn on the ground.

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All up :)

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Unfortunately, not quite the end of the job. I now had to move the winch part way down and above my access track above the slope to pull the trunks up to where I could cut them. Still, I no longer had to go up and down the greasy slope!

A good work out :) - who needs a gym.
 
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Laurentius

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I had to knock over a hanging tree about a week ago. It involved the co-operation of a neighbour as it was overhanging his fence, but all it took was to saw away the branch that was holding it in place and give it a bit of a push as it had lost it's roots. It fell with a crash, just glancing the corrugated iron roof of my neighbours shed, but it is no longer a danger to anybody.
 
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Well, I've finally had time to do a bit of management to my youngish woodland. One of the large Scots Pines had shed another large branch so I decided to fell the tree. That's a cube of firewood logged up and a fair bit of brash to bring back to shed to make some ericaceous compost.

This winter we've had several ash trees blown over where ADB has killed the tree and the roots have rotted off. A couple still showed signs of life last year so you don't get much time to remove them once dead. It also means they aren't much use as standing deadwood and I'll be a bit more ruthless this year.
 
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I'll kick off by asking what other owners/users have arranged for camp sanitation for a camp that's used frequently?
If it’s used regularly and frequently,I think long drop composting toilets on rotation is the way to go. With my woodland (and it’s infrequent use) I’m using 2 x port-a-potties into bio-degradable food compost bags with an handful of sawdust and these get tied up and thrown on my 300litre composting bin.
 
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Broch

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I can't believe how long it is since I put anything up on this thread, but I haven't been inactive!

The job list for this season hasn't changed a lot. We got the coppicing done on the western edge of the wood last season so now the tasks are:

- clear the rides of overgrowth and cut back the banks
- coppice the ride edges to widen the lighter area
- thin some of the self seeded ash
- fit two new gates to enable easier access to part of the wood

I had intended hiring a small tractor and topper to cut the rides, but the hire company sold it over summer because no one was hiring it :( I got hold of a walk-behind tracked flail mower which was better exercise as I had to walk the 1km of steep rides four times to cut the width. It was very effective however as you can see. We then used bush cutters on the banks.

Before and after :)

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I've started the ride edge coppicing and should get that finished if we get a bit of decent weather soon.
 

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I participated in an online presentation on the latest research, thoughts, and progress on Ash Dieback last night. With permission from D&G Woodlands here's a link for anyone interested in the subject (no idea why they left the timer countdown at the front :)):

 
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You might check the Council's housing action plan, to see if they have it earmarked for future development potential. As far as I know, they are supposed to have land earmarked for future use, even if the cost/practicality of it appears impractical.
 

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You might check the Council's housing action plan, to see if they have it earmarked for future development potential. As far as I know, they are supposed to have land earmarked for future use, even if the cost/practicality of it appears impractical.
Sorry that was meant for Laurentis, it would be heartbreaking to see a labour of love bulldozed over.
 
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TLM

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Have about finished my twice a year spruce crusade. Which is good as we have something of a snow storm just now.
 
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I participated in an online presentation on the latest research, thoughts, and progress on Ash Dieback last night. With permission from D&G Woodlands here's a link for anyone interested in the subject (no idea why they left the timer countdown at the front :)):

Can you give a quick summary as I can't watch videos at the moment.

I was going to say my recent management has been to start this winters removal of dead or nearly dead youngish ash. Quite a few have died off this year and some have been falling over even with signs on life on them.

Also had a very large, mature ash fall near our house. More firewood but we're going to lose quite a bit of tree cover in the next few years.
 

Broch

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Can you give a quick summary as I can't watch videos at the moment.

I was going to say my recent management has been to start this winters removal of dead or nearly dead youngish ash. Quite a few have died off this year and some have been falling over even with signs on life on them.

Also had a very large, mature ash fall near our house. More firewood but we're going to lose quite a bit of tree cover in the next few years.

Yep, OK, might take me a day or two :)
 
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haptalaon

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I participated in an online presentation on the latest research, thoughts, and progress on Ash Dieback last night. With permission from D&G Woodlands here's a link for anyone interested in the subject (no idea why they left the timer countdown at the front :)):

Thanks for sharing - I linked it to the people who make decisions in the woodland I help manage (I just do the lifting, shifting & kettle haha)
 

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Can you give a quick summary as I can't watch videos at the moment.

I was going to say my recent management has been to start this winters removal of dead or nearly dead youngish ash. Quite a few have died off this year and some have been falling over even with signs on life on them.

Also had a very large, mature ash fall near our house. More firewood but we're going to lose quite a bit of tree cover in the next few years.

Not sure if this helps, an AI summary of the video.

 
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Broch

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Mmm... sorry, but the AI missed some quite important points such as a) it is now believed that the fungus was spread by transportation of species of Eastern/Asian ash that is tolerant to the pathogen, b) in mature trees it's not ash die back that results in trees dying but secondary infection such as honey fungus c) because ash grows like a weed it has diverse genetic makeup and some are showing both resilience and recovery.

I'm away for a few days; I'll have a go at making sense of my notes when I get back.
 
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haptalaon

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Always nice re-reading and keeping up with this thread.

Today's plan at the woods I help with is to remove the sand supporting the shape of our cob pizza oven, at our site on the outskirts of the wood. I've not got as far as looking out the window this morning to check for snow... I suspect the priority is going to be drinking tea.
 
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Laurentius

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Sorry that was meant for Laurentis, it would be heartbreaking to see a labour of love bulldozed over.
It's probably a while ago now, but the Council did undertake an audit of land available for housing and I went through the document to make sure the site wasn't identified. Although it is no longer greenbelt it is designated as greenspace, along with the allotment and neighbouring farm. The farmer did see off an application for housing on land, formerly part of a college, but I heard only tonight that the owners of that land are no longer planning to build on it instead and that site is being retained for educational purposes. The district allotment association is actually going to provide some Hawthorn whips for hedging to secure the allotment which borders on my patch at my suggestion so it is pretty much win win at the moment.
 

Laurentius

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I've known "Educational purposes" to be used as a euphemism for playing fields, which then later magically became land for housing. (Bedfordshire CC). But for now all good for you.
Sources tell me that a free school is interesting in buying the property I have also got an alert set up with the Land registry to inform me of any ownership changes in the area. FWIW it has been used as a location by BBC for a TV series set in a Midlands school.
 

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