Wild camping dartmoor threatened again

[Woody girl]

Kerr Rawdon has just dropped another short video on YT about yet another challenge in the courts to stop wild camping on dartmoor. I wish I knew how to link it, but I'm sure you clever lot can find it.
There is a protest planned on the moor, so those that can, get along and support the right to wild camp on dartmoor. Details of the protest in the video.
He says,
"If this challenge to stop wild camping succeeds, its irrevocable."
That's the end of it.
We need to stand up and fight the good fight before all our civil liberties are gone.


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[Chris]

Utterly obscene. Hopefully the Supreme Court rules against the Darwalls.

 

[Laurentius]

It would be nice if they were compulsorily purchased off the moor.

 

[Ozmundo]

I hear you, but then giving them more taxpayer money irks.

 

[Tony]

Very irritating, there's so much benefit to fresh air, camping and being outdoors, heck, the NHS should be fighting the case.

 

[Woody girl]

The guy is arguing that the law only allows you to walk or ride across the land and that even stopping to have a picnic is illegal and trespassing.
Delusional that an incomer can dictate to the populace, and try to nulify hundreds of years of land use history
Money talks eh?
Hopefully the judge won't have been bunged, and will see sense.
Who went and joined the protest on the moor? We have some members down that way, and some who often travel there to enjoy recreational time.

 

[Laurentius]

The guy is arguing that the law only allows you to walk or ride across the land and that even stopping to have a picnic is illegal and trespassing.
Delusional that an incomer can dictate to the populace, and try to nulify hundreds of years of land use history
Money talks eh?
Hopefully the judge won't have been bunged, and will see sense.
Who went and joined the protest on the moor? We have some members down that way, and some who often travel there to enjoy recreational time.

I know I am getting political here, but I believe it is time that the "rights" or the rather wrongs of landowners like him were curtailed, land is for all not for profit. He only wants to raise grouse so fat cats can pay a fortune to shoot at them and mostly miss. Obviously peasants get in the way. There should be limits as to how much land can be owned and for what purposes. Labour should have done this in 1945, but it would be good if they forced this apology for a human being to pack his bags and go into tax exile somewhere out of harms way.

 

[Woody girl]

For those who could not go on the dartmoor protest walk last Sunday, but wish to help and see common sense prevail.

Dartmoor Preservation Association.

Just Giving Appeal.
Save Dartmoor Backpack Camping.

Still short of target to cover legal fees. Donations to help save our heritage and freedoms from this
********landowners greed and avarice.
Any excess raised to buy hiking boots and camping equipment for ten tors, D of E, and scouts.
Come on chaps, dig in to those pockets and donate the price of a couple of beers or coffees. ,preferably more. Its a good cause.

 

[Ozmundo]

Done. I shall do an eBay clearance this weekend and put the proceeds in too.

 

[Woody girl]

Done. I shall do an eBay clearance this weekend and put the proceeds in too.

That's very generous. We'll done and thank you.

 

[Paul_B]

If it is a lose for the landowner, do you think it will have any affect on the potential for similar rights for the 99.3% of England that is not Dartmoor?

Not trying to be negative I just wish that there was a more prominent campaign to get better access legislation for the whole of England and indeed Wales too. It is certainly needed. IF we had it then the peculiarities of Dartmoor land access regulations and laws would not matter.

 

[Woody girl]

If it is a lose for the landowner, do you think it will have any affect on the potential for similar rights for the 99.3% of England that is not Dartmoor?

Not trying to be negative I just wish that there was a more prominent campaign to get better access legislation for the whole of England and indeed Wales too. It is certainly needed. IF we had it then the peculiarities of Dartmoor land access regulations and laws would not matter.

That would be an ideal, but we have to work with what we have, and hopefully build on it in the future.
If we can get the law on the people's side for dartmoor, then perhaps we have a precedent for the future in other areas .
If we are complacent, then we lose everything, as, if this judgement goes for the Darrells, it's enshrined in law with no more options to challenge.
That goes for the pro dartmoor access too.
It's vitality important that we support the freedom of access to the park, or we loose it completely for ever.

 

[hughtrimble]

For those who could not go on the dartmoor protest walk last Sunday, but wish to help and see common sense prevail.

Dartmoor Preservation Association.

Just Giving Appeal.
Save Dartmoor Backpack Camping.

Still short of target to cover legal fees. Donations to help save our heritage and freedoms from this
********landowners greed and avarice.
Any excess raised to buy hiking boots and camping equipment for ten tors, D of E, and scouts.
Come on chaps, dig in to those pockets and donate the price of a couple of beers or coffees. ,preferably more. Its a good cause.

Here is the link (any additional barrier to people being able to donate may mean fewer do...so hopefully posting the link is alright):

Save Dartmoor Backpack Camping - Appeal Fundraiser (Official)

The Dartmoor Preservation Association is backing Dartmoor National Park Authority as the official focus for donations in its appeal against a ban on backpack camping. We wish to see a rights-based not a permission-based system on Dartmoor.

www.justgiving.com

 

[pieinthesky]

This should be about opening up other areas for wild camping, which would relieve the pressure on Dartmoor!

The amount spent on 'Private Keep Out' signs in the UK must exceed the GDP of some small countries. Round here, Dianas brother, (cant remember his name), is particularly hot on reminding the Serfs where they can and cannot go.

 

[Woody girl]

This should be about opening up other areas for wild camping, which would relieve the pressure on Dartmoor!

The amount spent on 'Private Keep Out' signs in the UK must exceed the GDP of some small countries. Round here, Dianas brother, (cant remember his name), is particularly hot on reminding the Serfs where they can and cannot go.

In an ideal world, yes, I agree, but as I said before, we have to work with what we have, and set a precedent first.
Landowners have money to spare, we don't.