Why isn't Ron Hood given enough Credit?

[Ron Hood]

I think that emit

They were loud though Strange how blowing mine was fun. I wish other people hadn't agreed when blowing theirs though.

Great ton see one of the "greats" here Ron. Honoured to see you here

Red

I must say that you are very flexible!

Thank you sir! The honor is mine. I can enjoy working the editing system and turn my chair to enjoy the conversation. The best of all worlds.

FWIW...

Qui non est hodie crasus minus aptus erit

(I think that's how it goes, Latin is a long way back for me...)

Back to work....

Ron

 

[crazydave]

welcome sir and may you visit again.

okay so who's going to send him a moot invite then?

 

[British Red]

We call it "train hard, fight easy"

Red

 

[spamel]

Wow! Ron's in the house! Cool! Hope to see you over here more often, I've seen one of your DVDs and it was great. I like the way you have a little chuckle to yourself now and then, and the Cave Lady's quite nice too! I particularly liked the way she gutted the trouts, I've never seen that method before. Every day is a learning day.

**Edited as this bit looked like I was having a pop at Ron. This is for the community!**

As to the bushcraft/survival thing, I have an extensive library that is not quite on a par with Stuarts (whose is, other than Mors?). Picking a few books up I can look for certain subjects and they are identical in bushcraft books and survival books. ray himself wrote a Survival Handbook, so did Lofty Wiseman and his book has many skill sets that are used by the bushcraft fraternity. It's a word, they are the same thing until you are in a survival situation, then it becomes survival. IMO, you can't practice survival, becauwe there is no threat to life in your local woods when you had a bowl of porridge before leaving the house and you have your snap in your pack and a bottle of water, a cooker of some sort maybe, a tarp for when you get to where you're going, etc. What you are doing isn't bushcraft either. Aborigines in Australia practise bushcraft, they are doing all sorts and they live off it entirely. Who here lives off what they do entirely? Who here has shunned society, doesn't use petrol, electricity, gas, shops in the supermarket, buys their clothing from the shops, etc, etc?

You are practising skill sets, nothing more. You're not survivng, you're not bushcrafting. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news there, but I'm sick of the arguing over a bloody word! From now on, you tell the missus you're going skill set practising and be done with it!

If we never have this subject crop up again, it'll be too soon!

 

[falcon]

You are practising skill sets, nothing more. You're not survivng, you're not bushcrafting. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news there, but I'm sick of the arguing over a bloody word! From now on, you tell the missus you're going skill set practising and be done with it!

Spot on ....but I bet that won't be the last word on the subject

 

[Ron Hood]

No bad news there Spamel! I didn't call our video series "Survival master" or "Bushmaster" (saw a porno named that once) I called it "Woodsmaster". I did that for a reason. Not yours but mine.

There was some conversation about the difference in terrain and area in several of the posts. Also a comment about cell phones. Where I live, if I walk ten miles there is no cell phone service. Once I get into the big trees or down in the canyons the GPS is nearly useless. If at that point a bear takes my gear or I lose it crossing a rapids (both have happened to me) I need survival skills. If I practice my skills I just call it "Practicing" or "Owning" a skill set. For my money arguing about terms is for desk monkeys not woodsmen. I saw a lot of that when we discussed the androgogy of wilderness training at the University. Those who do, don't care about the words... those who talk chatted on endlessly. My guess is that some of those folks are still talking about it. I hope that isn't what goes on here!

In my home we eat Elk, Bear, Cougar, Marmot, trout, deer, Beef, lamb, pork, insects etc etc. Most of these I kill and clean myself. I don't have much use for vegetarians except as prey. I don't consider any of these to be "survival foods" because in essence, all food is survival food.

Our work is not specifically training for any sort of emergency. We are trying to create a video encyclopedia of wilderness skills within the scope we define for each video.

I have a few books as well ....

Love 'em but don't read them. Rather do, than read.

Speaking of which... gotta edit.

Ron

 

[spamel]

I think shooting/fishing/etc. your own game is an important thing to do. People have no idea where theie meat comes from these days, I shoot rabbit and it all goes in the pot. As you say, you kill it you eat it!

Oh, and the second part of my post wasn't directed at you Ron, I've just re-read it and it does look like that! It was for the community as a whole! I'll go and change that accordingly!

 

[Ron Hood]

I think shooting/fishing/etc. your own game is an important thing to do. People have no idea where theie meat comes from these days, I shoot rabbit and it all goes in the pot. As you say, you kill it you eat it!

Oh, and the second part of my post wasn't directed at you Ron, I've just re-read it and it does look like that! It was for the community as a whole! I'll go and change that accordingly!

Sorry Spamel... I read my post and it did seem like I was directing it at your post... OOPS! Let's go get a beer!

We all know that the internet is incapable of transmitting nuance and expressions.. I was winking when I made some of those comments. There were a few academics I wanted to put on my food list.

I agree whole heartedly with your comment about modern folk not knowing where their food comes from. We've had guests who wouldn't eat their lamb when I told them I killed it. What difference does it make who killed it? The good Lord didn't give us canines and cutting teeth to eat bananas!

FWIW I thought it might be interesting to a few readers to take a look at this random outfitters site from our neck of the woods.

http://www.middleforkoutfitters.com/

It sorta gives folks a sense of size as well as the hunting available here. I tend to shy away from bear meat these days as more and more are found hosting Trichinosis infections. This comes from eating in human garbage piles. More hunting drives the bears deeper into the mountains where they don't feed on contaminated garbage.... just backpackers.

Lions don't suffer this indignity since they like their meat freshish and not garbage. Lion meat is "The other white meat" and tastes a lot like very nice pork. Bear meat is a lot gamier and tends to have a whiff of garbage if it isn't back country raised. A big mean bear means a lot of really nasty meat you need to cook into stews and dog food.

Ron

 

[scanker]

For my money arguing about terms is for desk monkeys not woodsmen. I saw a lot of that when we discussed the androgogy of wilderness training at the University. Those who do, don't care about the words... those who talk chatted on endlessly. My guess is that some of those folks are still talking about it. I hope that isn't what goes on here!

A pity the rep button is out of use at the moment, because I'm sure your stock would be soaring. Nicely put.

 

[Paganwolf]

Hahahahahahahahaha!!!! Classic, i can small the rubber burning on some of those back peddling mice wheels already Nice one Ron youve just made my year

Quote of the century

"If I practice my skills I just call it "Practicing" or "Owning" a skill set. For my money arguing about terms is for desk monkeys not woodsmen. I saw a lot of that when we discussed the androgogy of wilderness training at the University. Those who do, don't care about the words... those who talk chatted on endlessly. My guess is that some of those folks are still talking about it. I hope that isn't what goes on here!"

Ooop's lets have a beer

gotta go dry my eyes now............................

 

[Forest fella]

Hi,Ron, I'm going to have to buy a new WoodsMaster volume 9 at some point as My dvd player killed the last section with Tim Lively,Or I watched it to Death,not sure which,And you were right As soon as I watched it,I started to Forge my own knives.
Great stuff

 

[mick miller]

Good to hear from the man himself. Keep up the great work and the relaxed approach.

 

[British Red]

For my money arguing about terms is for desk monkeys not woodsmen.

I have to say that is a fantastic phrase!

In fact - can I have it as a quote for my signature line ?

 

[Paganwolf]

Oooooooooh my sides are still hurtin

Thats was exactly what i was thinking Red

 

[Mikey P]

Easy. Because hardly anyone knows who he is.

 

[Ron Hood]

Thanks guys!

British Red... If you like it please feel free.

Forest Fella... Did the section play properly when you first got it? If you had a problem initially we can replace it for you. Sometimes during shipping the disk will come loose and scratch a section. Drop me a PM and we can fix it.

Anything specific I can confuse for you fellas?

Ron

 

[British Red]

Cheers Ron - just twigged the "flexible" comment - you are a sick puppy

As a UK retailer of your stuff, can I suggest you talk to Lurch on here? (aka http://www.lakelandbushcraft.co.uk/ he's kind of "one of us" but also a sensible quality retailer)

Red

 

[spamel]

Ron, have you ever visited Wales in the summer? Maybe next year...?

 

[British Red]

Now that might even get me out of the woods long enough to turn up to a moot

Or better yet a couple of courses after.........

Red

 

[Bernie Garland]

Now that might even get me out of the woods long enough to turn up to a moot

Or better yet a couple of courses after.........

Red

Totally agree there Red

Bernie