Why have Fallkniven changed the DC4?

[JonathanD]

didn't know they existed until now... given the fact that i had issues with corrosion on diamond stones in our tropical climate this might work as an alternative to touch up a blade on overnight trips (although i won't be able to get one in the near future)

They’re great mate. I’ve used one for 8 years now.

 

[ged]

Hey ged. How are you? Yeah it’s been a while.

Sorry, this reply somehow got delayed. I think I forgot to hit 'post reply'...

Not too bad considering my advanced years, thank you, and still very busy. Hope you and yours are well too.

Yeah RWL has more wear resistance than the standard carbons, not so easy on a stone, but responds well to regular stropping with compound.

For a few years I only ever stropped it but the very fine stropped edge never seemed to last long. Somehow I seem to get a lot more mileage out of a quick trim on the diamond surface. For RWL34 I don't bother with the ceramic surfaces at all any more.

Nice to hear one of my older ones is still getting some use.

Every day, mostly just for a few minutes prepping fires and food.

It's this one. I think it's my favourite fixed blade but it's tough to choose.

Hope you're well Ged.

"Better than the alternative" as Graucho once said. Thank you, and the same to you.

Compliments of the season to all!

 

[alphaburner]

He is all donkey drama. Last week he was moaninng about pickled onion monster munch because they made them bigger and pit them in smaller bags. A 40 year old man moaning about the size of monster munch. And that is not all, oh no, it is like being married to a young victor meldrew.

He's dead right. The last pack I opened, had the larger bites and there were only 7 in the bag. Took to my bed with the vapours for a week.

 

[alphaburner]

Do not even start on wagon wheels

Yes the mallow doesn't peel off the biscuit like it used and the new chocolate, best guess, is made from out-of-date Bisto granules.

 

[alphaburner]

Just an update to this thread as I know it’s been worrying people for 12 years. But the newer alternative with the fine ceramic is great.

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Did you get the pouch from Woodlore, like the look of that.

 

[Chris]

I know it's a holy time of year and all that, but I must say that I, too, covet my neighbour's CC4 pouch.

 

[JonathanD]

Yeah, it’s from Woodlore. They supply it with their own stone now.

 

[Furbles]

Yeah, it’s from Woodlore. They supply it with their own stone now.

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Is it stitched so that the inside face of the leather is on the other side, like the newer Fallkniven sheaths? I like that they have done that, so you can add a bit of compound and use it as a strop - it becomes a one-stop sharpening shop.

 

[JonathanD]

It’s smooth finished leather on both sides. No rough out.

 

[walker]

I've noticed the same so hopefully it will smooth out .
Using it on my hatchet for now and the knife gets the old dc3

 

[wickerman]

my original one the ceramic side was rippled and polished the blade....but I miss placed it and bought another about ten years ago and it is course used it many times still course I tend to use the diamond side

 

[R_Fonseca]

I know it's a holy time of year and all that, but I must say that I, too, covet my neighbour's CC4 pouch.

 

[Chris]

I've been using my CC4 a lot this year.

I'd say I like it equally to, if not more than, my DoubleStuff. I love it. I find myself reaching for it far more often than I do the DC4, especially now that the ceramic side of my DC4 has cracked.

My ideal in the field would be the CC4, which gives a fantastically sharp edge and can be used for 99% of sharpenings, but a small DC4 style diamond stone just in case of some heavy work needed on a badly blunted blade.

If someone with more talent than me was able to modify the pouch so that the front, smooth leather which has the Fallkniven logo and everything on it, instead had some way of permanently mounting the diamond part of a DC4, then I'd buy it in a flash. I wonder if some kind of bonding agent would work betwixt leather and diamond stone?

 

[Stew]

I've been using my CC4 a lot this year.

I'd say I like it equally to, if not more than, my DoubleStuff. I love it. I find myself reaching for it far more often than I do the DC4, especially now that the ceramic side of my DC4 has cracked.

My ideal in the field would be the CC4, which gives a fantastically sharp edge and can be used for 99% of sharpenings, but a small DC4 style diamond stone just in case of some heavy work needed on a badly blunted blade.

If someone with more talent than me was able to modify the pouch so that the front, smooth leather which has the Fallkniven logo and everything on it, instead had some way of permanently mounting the diamond part of a DC4, then I'd buy it in a flash. I wonder if some kind of bonding agent would work betwixt leather and diamond stone?

Yeah, you could probably glue it on. Tones of decent adhesives now - wouldn’t surprise me if a bit of OB1 or CT1 did it and stayed flexible enough but I wouldn’t want to guarantee it. I would certainly give it a try….

Isn’t what you really need a pouch with two compartments?

With the diamond on the outside, I would be thinking about it scratching other things or getting manky.

 

[Chris]

Yeah, you could probably glue it on. Tones of decent adhesives now - wouldn’t surprise me if a bit of OB1 or CT1 did it and stayed flexible enough but I wouldn’t want to guarantee it. I would certainly give it a try….

Isn’t what you really need a pouch with two compartments?

With the diamond on the outside, I would be thinking about it scratching other things or getting manky.

Yeah I think you're right there, a sort of double decker pouch would be good. Or a leather flap which could cover it, which I could unflap to expose the diamond stone and sharpen in situ, rather than having to clumsily hold a really thin stone.

 

[Stew]

As a strop!

 

[Keith_Beef]

Yeah, you could probably glue it on. Tones of decent adhesives now - wouldn’t surprise me if a bit of OB1 or CT1 did it and stayed flexible enough but I wouldn’t want to guarantee it. I would certainly give it a try….

Isn’t what you really need a pouch with two compartments?

With the diamond on the outside, I would be thinking about it scratching other things or getting manky.

Hmm... I have a CC4 (as well as a DC4), but also a little diamond coated metal plate (whose other side is polished like a mirror that would do, at a push, as an emergency heliograph). A pouch to hold both, with the inside of the flap serving also as a strop, is a great idea.

How necessary is a strop when you have a fine ceramic hone?

 

[Chris]

Hmm... I have a CC4 (as well as a DC4), but also a little diamond coated metal plate (whose other side is polished like a mirror that would do, at a push, as an emergency heliograph). A pouch to hold both, with the inside of the flap serving also as a strop, is a great idea.

How necessary is a strop when you have a fine ceramic hone?

I always strop on the ‘rough’ leather side of the DC4/CC4 pouch once done and I think it does help. Got a bit of green stropping compound rubbed into it as well.

 

[gg012]

I always strop on the ‘rough’ leather side of the DC4/CC4 pouch once done and I think it does help. Got a bit of green stropping compound rubbed into it as well.

I unpicked the stitching in my DC3 and reversed one side to do the same, but with Long strider's smurf poo on it. IYKYK

 

[Chris]

I unpicked the stitching in my DC3 and reversed one side to do the same, but with Long strider's smurf poo on it. IYKYK

They now actually sell them with one side reversed after customer feedback, which is great.