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Andy BB

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One for you, Rik - why does the KAP Arctic tend to have a quiet burner on? I find them less efficient and more susceptible to wind than the roarers on Optimus stoves, and don't mind the additional noise! Or is it just that - the noise factor?
 

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One for you, Rik - why does the KAP Arctic tend to have a quiet burner on? I find them less efficient and more susceptible to wind than the roarers on Optimus stoves, and don't mind the additional noise! Or is it just that - the noise factor?


Here have a fossick on this web site

http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/luontola/retkeily/index_eng.htm

The KAP is a silent burner stove which fits into a Trangia windshield....

The noise factor is the prime reason for using a silent burner...
 

Andy BB

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Here have a fossick on this web site

http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/luontola/retkeily/index_eng.htm

The KAP is a silent burner stove which fits into a Trangia windshield....

The noise factor is the prime reason for using a silent burner...

Interesting article - thanks. Yes, I know about the KAP, and have seen a few, but always wondered about the silent burner. THe article makes it clear that it is indeed the noise that drives the decision over a roarer burner. Shame - I always like the sound of a roarer - sort of companiable!
 

bilmo-p5

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Wind isn't a problem in the KAP Arctic, but there's no reason why a similar set-up should not be put together using a roarer burner. I had some connectors made a few years ago whereby 111 bnrs and 8R bnrs could be attached to an Opti Nova pump...

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Some time later a chap in Finland developed a kit whereby a 111T bnr could be adapted to fit in a Trangia (25) windshield. This is what Richard was referring to in his earlier thread. Here's the link...

http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/luontola/ultimate/index_eng.htm


I don't know if he's still making them. I have one...

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But I thought that a 111 bnr was a bit overkill for a T27, which is why I had the Nova pump/8R adaptor made so as to fit the smaller 8R petrol bnr in the T27 windshield...

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ged

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Wind isn't a problem in the KAP Arctic, but there's no reason why a similar set-up should not be put together using a roarer burner. I had some connectors made a few years ago whereby 111 bnrs and 8R bnrs could be attached to an Opti Nova pump...

Cool! As it were. :)
 

ged

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I think if I put my 111B burner in a Trangia it would melt the Trangia. Surely a Nova burner would be more than enough. My Nova came with a bracket to fit the Trangia but I've never owned a civvy Trangia so I've never used it.

[Longshot]If anyone knows where I can get a Duossal Trangia 25 please let me know. [/Longshot]
 

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111B won't melt a Trangia, its no hotter than a 111 or 111T. That said I wrapped an MSR foil wind shield a little close to a Nova and the Nova melted a hole in the foil.
 
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111B won't melt a Trangia, its no hotter than a 111 or 111T.

Er.... :)

That said I wrapped an MSR foil wind shield a little close to a Nova and the Nova melted a hole in the foil.

Oh, that makes me feel SO much better. :)

I've a non stick Trangia 27 if your interested Ged, PM me.

Thanks Rik, but I really want the Duossal version not the non-stick. And I forgot to mention I'm looking for a 25 not a 27. A 27 just ain't big enough for my dinner. :yikes:

But if you could see your way to pairing the Trangia 27 with, say, a Trapper 81 then I might be persuaded... :)
 
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Andy BB

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Er.... :)



Oh, that makes me feel SO much better. :)



Thanks Rik, but I really want the Duossal version not the non-stick. And I forgot to mention I'm looking for a 25 not a 27. A 27 just ain't big enough for my dinner. :yikes:

But if you could see your way to pairing the Trangia 27 with, say, a Trapper 81 then I might be persuaded... :)

why ruin a Trapper 81 - its so much better than a 27 - or 25 for that matter, it's embarrassing!

Love my Trapper:)
 

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This weekend you can get the large Trangia 25-3 gasol which includes their gas (butane/propane) burner unit (but not the alcohol burner) for GBP 47 (aprox) including UK shipping from the ... [now sold out].
 
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rik_uk3

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Er.... :)



Oh, that makes me feel SO much better. :)



Thanks Rik, but I really want the Duossal version not the non-stick. And I forgot to mention I'm looking for a 25 not a 27. A 27 just ain't big enough for my dinner. :yikes:

But if you could see your way to pairing the Trangia 27 with, say, a Trapper 81 then I might be persuaded... :)

Traded a Trapper for a tent Ged, cracking deal all round, have one un-fired Trapper and that will without doubt go to a Japanese collector sometime in the future. Might trade a Sigg Tourest/123.
 

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