Agree.... If 111's float your boat either the plain 111 which is a great stove for a roarer or a 111T which is much more civilized around camp would be my picks.....
I'd avoid a 111b and definately the 111c at all costs.
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Agree.... If 111's float your boat either the plain 111 which is a great stove for a roarer or a 111T which is much more civilized around camp would be my picks.....
I'd avoid a 111b and definately the 111c at all costs.
The optimus stoves are good but are limited to liquid fuels,I'm also looking at the primus express lander as it uses both gas and liquid and is very small and light.I have the express spider and can't fault it ,apart from only using gas.
So you want a stove that burns a range of liquid fuels plus gas, is lightweight,has a small pack size and the pump is durable.
I'd say Primus omnifuel or a Chinese omnifuel / nova clone. I have a Chinese stove in the garage it's a sort of whisper lite omnifuel clone and runs on kerosene, gas and 'petrol' it's actually not that bad... But underburns badly on a low flame.
If you wanted a really good multi fuel stove for liquids only then I'd say get the original xgk it's bomb proof but the gram weenie in you wouldn't like that....
I'd say Primus omnifuel or a Chinese omnifuel / nova clone. I have a Chinese stove in the garage it's a sort of whisper lite omnifuel clone and runs on kerosene, gas and 'petrol' it's actually not that bad... But underburns badly on a low flame.
If you wanted a really good multi fuel stove for liquids only then I'd say get the original xgk it's bomb proof but the gram weenie in you wouldn't like that....
The fixed fuel line is good design
You can lift the stove by the bottle and shift it around so say outside of a fly or snow cave while priming then inside to cook on... Also the ridged line is a doddle to clean.... A propper stove for big hills or cold places....
+1 to all that -- although I'm sure you didn't mean that all paraffin stoves are silent. There are many roaring paraffin stoves, I have a few myself.
+1 to all that -- although I'm sure you didn't mean that all paraffin stoves are silent. There are many roaring paraffin stoves, I have a few myself.
Yup - have the roarer 111, and the Optimus 45, and a couple of SVEA 106, and a couple of Brit optimus clones, the Army Mk2, all on paraffin (except the Mk2 and a Coleman 533 - petrol, but they both roar nicely)! I do have one silent optimus though....
Pop down the shop you visited and have another look at the stoves. your have to pick soon before your mrs changes her mind, you know what woman are like lol.
I'm gonna get this one:
http://www.optimusstoves.com/seen/o...pconnect/optimus-outdoor-kocher/optimus-crux/
http://www.optimusstoves.com/seen/o...pconnect/optimus-outdoor-kocher/optimus-crux/
Just how heavy and cumbersome are the other stoves when they have their fuel tank attached?
It all depends on what you want doesn't it, if you like using stoves then get a 123R but if you like buying stoves, get a Whisperlite*
*You'll get a chance to buy another before too long as well.
Why would you so definitely avoid the 111c when you are such a proponent of the 11 Explorer?
Same burner... But different stove....
The Explorer is ok on Coleman fuel but rubbish on kero.... It's also not in a case with a fixed fuel tank like a 111...
I like it for winter camping because it has a silent burner.... Most ( but not all) remote fuel bottle stoves tend to be roarers...Which is ok but noisy... Listening to a Dragonfly in a snow cave for the best part of an hour as you melt snow and make dinner etc is not much fun TBH.... What I need is a KAP Arctic..
I've been using this recently....
Also nice and quiet... And great on Coleman fuel....
The Explorer is ok on Coleman fuel but rubbish on kero.... It's also not in a case with a fixed fuel tank like a 111...
I like it for winter camping because it has a silent burner.... Most ( but not all) remote fuel bottle stoves tend to be roarers...Which is ok but noisy... Listening to a Dragonfly in a snow cave for the best part of an hour as you melt snow and make dinner etc is not much fun TBH.... What I need is a KAP Arctic..
I've been using this recently....
Also nice and quiet... And great on Coleman fuel....
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My original response to OP was the Omnifuel, but I'm thinking more and more that a KAP Arctic would be as good a choice. Wonder if the 111T conversion kits are still available.
I'm trying to find the link to the guy who makes the conversion kits, I'll pass it on when I find it.
