What life style do you wish to live?

[massa]

My wish is to live a life like Alaskan Bush people! leaving all the civilisation behind, (my home, my gadgets , all city life style, my work, .... leave everything behind - give it all away!) and live like primitive people - growing my own vag, having my own animals, forage from the wood, collecting wood (to keep warm and builds), fishing and hunt , I know it’s extremely difficult in reality! but out there some people done it! and they are happy and successful... it can be done... in one of my travel to USA few years ago, I meet few peoples in Taxes Swamps living permanently in the wood, left all there modern life style behind and took this pathway!, living in just simple wooden small house (like cottage) they build it by themselves, living with only basic needs inside , (hardly any furniture) of course no electricity, no running water, no phones, nothing at all ... only simple and basic inside, I remember I meet one guy in the taxes swamp his name is “Paul” (living this way), he told me, he use to live in New York and he was doing for living an industrial electrical maintenance engineer, earn good money , but he said; in 2002 I sold my flat in New York, I quit my job and I follow my dream to live wild, he said; I give up everything, I asked: why he side that’s the life I want to live, whyTaxes? he said; because there state law for Bush-people are relax, I asked again, from where you get your tools, your basic living needs items and other hunting staff you have ?, I can’t see any source of money income? He said; by trading with the local from what I hunt, also from my animals or what I grow and they are generous with me, I can sense how he relax, satisfying and happy with his life style , well it’s a very brave step and difficult decision to make? need a lot of courage and deep thinking,...
that was my wish,!....to live like Paul
Now, What is your wish?

 

[Paul_B]

I'd like to live the lifestyle I had before covid. It was a simple life but I liked it.

 

[John Fenna]

I too had it just about right before Covid ... not too bad since either - but I would like the freedom to get out a bit further from home once in a while....

 

[Erbswurst]

I agree with @Paul_B .

I just want that it becomes how it was before the Corona crises. I want to continue traveling, that's all.

 

[Broch]

So, in this perfect lifestyle, where do you get medical support for you and your family? What do you do when you get rheumatoid arthritis and can no longer swing an axe to split the wood? How do you feed yourself and your family when you have a mishap and you spend months with an arm or a leg in plaster (or some other constraint)?

I looked long and hard at living a much simpler lifestyle many years ago. I had gone as far as having a plan, a place, and a method. It was my psychological bolthole to the severe stress I was under with the house on the line for the loans that were keeping the company afloat, paying my staff's mortgages but not mine, and delays in payment from big customers etc. But, when you properly do the 'what if analysis', it doesn't really work out that well. Having said that, planning it kept me sane

I can honestly say I am very happy with the lifestyle I have carved for myself (even now during the pandemic). I have contributed to, and continue to support, society - so I'm not reliant on other people paying taxes to pay for my health care and other services. All I really need is more time to do all the things I want to do

 

[punkrockcaveman]

So, in this perfect lifestyle, where do you get medical support for you and your family? What do you do when you get rheumatoid arthritis and can no longer swing an axe to split the wood? How do you feed yourself and your family when you have a mishap and you spend months with an arm or a leg in plaster (or some other constraint)?

I looked long and hard at living a much simpler lifestyle many years ago. I had gone as far as having a plan, a place, and a method. It was my psychological bolthole to the severe stress I was under with the house on the line for the loans that were keeping the company afloat, paying my staff's mortgages but not mine, and delays in payment from big customers etc. But, when you properly do the 'what if analysis', it doesn't really work out that well. Having said that, planning it kept me sane

I can honestly say I am very happy with the lifestyle I have carved for myself (even now during the pandemic). I have contributed to, and continue to support, society - so I'm not reliant on other people paying taxes to pay for my health care and other services. All I really need is more time to do all the things I want to do

I appreciate your honesty there Broch. I have sympathy for business owners, I work for a very small business and it's been a rollercoaster ride especially recently. I think a lot of folk think the man at the top has an easy ride, not so

 

[oldtimer]

We had it all set up just as we wished after a lifetime of hard work and planning. Two homes, two countries, two lifestyles and a campervan for moving between them.

Then Brexit and Covid-19 wrecked it.

"The best laid plans of mice and men are aft to gang aglae."

 

[Tengu]

Where are you going to find Museums/archives/libraries in the Wilderness?

You cant do it all online...yet.

 

[Woody girl]

I think this is a dream many of us have had. Right now it seems the answer to all that is going on in the world. Its overwhelming and we just want to escape.
So start where you are.
Give your tv away, get rid of your car, switch off the electric and water, throw your phone away.
Try living like that in your own home. Then see how well you cope. If you cant do it in the midst of society, you will struggle out of it.
I'm lucky enough to have a small garden and am able to grow some veg, but nowhere near enough to keep me alive in the winter months. I also forage, but again, never enough to keep me well fed all year round.
I have woodland, and moorland all around me, and two good rivers within a pretty easy walk. I can hear bucks roaring in the autumn.
I could get pigeons and pheasants with a 22 from my back door if I wanted to.
I have a wood burner, and collect my own wood for it, I still have to buy fuel in. I still have to buy basic foodstuffs in.(milk, flour,oats, oil )etc
I've spent time living out permanently in the woods, and in a camper van, or caravan. I'm so glad to have brick walls, electric, running water, and a shop nearby. A phone so I can get help if I'm ill, so many things that though I've shaved a lot out of my life, (no tv for instance) I wouldn't want to go a great deal further than I have at my age. (About 10 yrs more than you) If I were 20 again, who knows........

 

[Erbswurst]

It isn't so complicated to live of a piece of land, if it is good farming land and if one learned how to do it professionally. Even if one uses exclusively simple hand tools.

But I admit, that the food would become quite boring in the long run.

 

[Herman30]

And what do you do when you get hardly any crops because of foul weather? You starve.
This happened in Finland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_famine_of_1866–68

 

[Paul_B]

It's happened everywhere, potato blight in Ireland for example.

 

[TLM]

It's happened everywhere, potato blight in Ireland for example.

What has always made me wonder is that it happened next to a sea full of fish. Actually a bit similar situation in Finland too, except the ice makes fishing more complicated.

 

[Lean'n'mean]

What has always made me wonder is that it happened next to a sea full of fish. Actually a bit similar situation in Finland too, except the ice makes fishing more complicated.

It isn't so simple. In the mid 19th century the majority of the Irish population were rural & poor. Meat & fish were expensive, plus there wasn't the infrastructure to deliver fresh fish to the rural areas. at the time. The same thing is likely to happen to the rest of us in the not too distant future when the cereal crops fail due to the expected increased heat waves & droughts & then only the rich will have access to food. There won't be any fish left in the sea either.

 

[TLM]

In the mid 19th century the majority of the Irish population were rural & poor.

How far away from the sea can one get in Ireland? I guess in 1850 there was fish in the sea. Surprisingly the same thing happened here too, people started wandering around looking for food instead of fishing. Go figure.

I remember some 35 years ago visiting Ireland and staying a few days at a farmhouse B&B right next to the bay at Tralee. I asked our host if he ever fished, he looked at me like I were from Mars, "no I am a farmer and farmers don't fish".

Seemed strange as in Finland many farmers did farm and fish in days gone by.

 

[Tengu]

I heard that in Ireland they dont eat wild food much; they associate it with poverty.

Is this true?

 

[Erbswurst]

In relatively normal circumstances the farmers are the last who starve. As long as they don't get robbed out by armed forces they sit on the food.

With our current international "just in time" market principles we probably all are worse prepared than our ancestors. And a few vegetable tins in the storage of townhouses surely do not really change that. We all depend on a pretty fragile system, a wrong political decision in my opinion, that's comparable with the idea to plant nearly exclusively an unknown fruit.

Obviously humans do not learn from disasters. Or they forget pretty soon about it. The idea to isolate ill people for example we can find already in the Torah, already Hippocrates taught an isolation of 40 days. And the quarantine for foreign people was used during the last centuries with great success. Obviously forgotten in the Schengen Area. I doubt that these governments are prepared for unexpected cold periods of extended duration, and the inhabitants of mega cities surely will get in a new famine time real problems far earlier than every land owner who is hidden somewhere in a lonely valley and equipped with grandpa's old hunting gun, for hunting and threatening those who come along.

Quarantine - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Trojan]

I live in a village but want to live further out with a bigger garden and access to woods.

I came very close to finding the perfect house recently then found out the disused quarry that had been closed ten years was opening up again would be operating 7 days a week.

 

[henchy3rd]

An alternative life with a bit of land at the side of a canal,so I can moor up & be semi-self sufficient.
Maybe have some like minded folk to join too.

 

[Robson Valley]

I wanted to get away from the city when I retired. So, I began to visit villages, see what they were like, what they had for services. After a dozen, I made my choice and bought a very well-built home at a very reasonable price. Five years after that, I went over the wall and hung my hat in this house. About 15 years ago.
112 m^2 on each of 2 floors, totally finished, just me and the cat.

I like having all the amenities. What I love is the snow-capped mountain scenery and accessible logging road wilderness for bird hunting in every direction. 15 minutes in any direction from the village. This has sort of put me off camping when I can come home to warm and dry so easily.

I planned for it. Took several years. I worked for it. Took decades and decades.
My house is at the north end, to the right.