Veganism, Vegeterianism, Omnivorism

[Prophecy]

Yeh I'm not sure about that.

However, it always reverts back to this. The science has been done - veganism can be a perfectly healthy diet. Here in the West we no longer need to consume animal products to survive. Not doing so is hugely beneficial to the animals, the planet and ourselves.

 

[Billy-o]

Bravo Prophecy

I really appreciate the way you have articulated your position over the past few days ... I know it will likely sound patronizing, I hope not, but I just wanted to signal the exemplary way you’ve conducted yourself, your positions and ripostes

 

[Janne]

Not all science, only science with a Vegan agenda.
The Marihuana proponents have produced science that show all sort of health benefits and medicinal benefits and no adverse effects.

B12?
Creatinin? Carnosine? D3? Iron?
Essential.


You can twist reasearch the way you want, same as with statistics.

I like that we have been able to have an interesting discussion! Without falling out verbally. Our opinions differ, but that is OK!

 

[Janne]

I find the way our bodies tell us things very interesting.
In my youth, I spent a lot of time in Nature, living off (usually) fish I caught. Flour. Freeze dried crap as emergency. Coffee.

After a couple days, I usually got a huge urge to chew on plants, and enjoyed acidic plants and shoots much more than usual. System told me I needed Vit C.

 

[Prophecy]

That's just it; the scores of dietetic associations aren't biased. What would the NHS possibly have to gain by stating that veganism can be a perfectly healthy diet?

What are they pushing? Fruit sales for the fruit industry? Vegetables? Linda McCartney sausages?

Of course studies can be biased; we see it all the time. But the list of dietetic associations around the world cannot possibly be refuted. I mean you can try, but as I said it's one person in their armchair against an army of scientists and the largest diet associations in the world. It's already done. Just accept it.

B12 is a layer of bacteria that sits over everything. Everything vegans buy in terms of plants, are washed. The B12 is washed away. So we can take a tiny pill twice a week to get it. Couldn't be simpler.

If you have a varied vegan diet, that is all you need. I've got bloodwork done 4 times in the last few years and my Doctor is constantly impressed.

Of course you'll get vegans who eat oreos all day long and the odd vegan burger off the shelf and their deficiencies will be off the charts, but I would argue that that would be the case more with omnivores because most people have no clue about diet these days.

Not all science, only science with a Vegan agenda.
The Marihuana proponents have produced science that show all sort of health benefits and medicinal benefits and no adverse effects.

B12?
Creatinin? Carnosine? D3? Iron?
Essential.


You can twist reasearch the way you want, same as with statistics.

I like that we have been able to have an interesting discussion! Without falling out verbally. Our opinions differ, but that is OK!

 

[Mr Wolf]

The Marihuana proponents have produced science that show all sort of health benefits and medicinal benefits and no adverse effects

I did a long term study on this.
Yes it has health benefits at the expense of your mental health