I'll leave all the phony intellectuallism to you.
You summed up the difference between us with this:
You summed up the difference between us with this:
Unusual encounters in the wilderness
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Why don't you fellows take your filthy flame warring shennanigans elsewhere, have a charity boxing match to raise money for saving the scottish wild cat or something but kindly refrain from getting my first ever thread here shut down because of flaming. Lets all just get along and love one another.
I can just picture a child being told a ghost story in front of the roaring fire by his kindly grandfather, snow is falling gently on the picturesque countryside outside the window and they're sharing a box of worthers originals, the story is reaching its terrifying punchline when all of a sudden a masked gunman named oblio kicks down the door and blows the kindly grandfathers head off "your logic is flawed" he calmly announces as he blows the smoke from the barrel of his bushcraft gun, turning on the distraught child he removes his hood revealing himself to be a sith lord "give in to your hatred my young apprentice" he cackles meanwhile hill bill attempts to fix grandpa with some crystals and reiki healing. The end.
I can just picture a child being told a ghost story in front of the roaring fire by his kindly grandfather, snow is falling gently on the picturesque countryside outside the window and they're sharing a box of worthers originals, the story is reaching its terrifying punchline when all of a sudden a masked gunman named oblio kicks down the door and blows the kindly grandfathers head off "your logic is flawed" he calmly announces as he blows the smoke from the barrel of his bushcraft gun, turning on the distraught child he removes his hood revealing himself to be a sith lord "give in to your hatred my young apprentice" he cackles meanwhile hill bill attempts to fix grandpa with some crystals and reiki healing. The end.
Point taken mate
Ahem !
Gentlemen, please.
Tony's guidelines for the fourn say no swearing and that includes the asterisked out one.
We even have a special infraction label for offenders..............it's too late, I don't want to Mod you; pretty please, Edit your posts a little and mind the guidelines.
It's been an interesting ramble of a thread this one.
cheers,
Toddy
Gentlemen, please.
Tony's guidelines for the fourn say no swearing and that includes the asterisked out one.
We even have a special infraction label for offenders..............it's too late, I don't want to Mod you; pretty please, Edit your posts a little and mind the guidelines.
It's been an interesting ramble of a thread this one.
cheers,
Toddy
HillBill if we dont use logic and common sense we would all believe everything we're told
Oblio 13 said he rode a unicorn should i believe him or use my common sense .
You believe what happened to you happened ok i cant sorry and im not your mate you dont know me.
Oblio 13 said he rode a unicorn should i believe him or use my common sense .
You believe what happened to you happened ok i cant sorry and im not your mate you dont know me.
So what about if youre doing something potentially dangerous, and once in a blue moon, you get a real bad feeling?
logical thinking would suggest that intuition is nonsense, so do you totally dismiss that thought and press on regardless?
logical thinking would suggest that intuition is nonsense, so do you totally dismiss that thought and press on regardless?
I must admit I don't understand where all the agression came from in this thread , it started of really well & some of you just thought this would be a good way of slagging of other members, why does this always seem to happen here , its the only thing that spoils BCUK for me. Why can't some of you just keep your opinions to yourselves and just stick to the topic wether you believe or not , if you don't don't post just to cause trouble.
Sorry for my little rant , but it does really annoy me.
Tree
And Swagman , usually using the word 'mate' over here doesn't nes. mean he knows you it's just a friendly term , no need for world war 3 just cause he used it.
Sorry for my little rant , but it does really annoy me.
Tree
And Swagman , usually using the word 'mate' over here doesn't nes. mean he knows you it's just a friendly term , no need for world war 3 just cause he used it.
Ah, but we're talking about two different things here. There are the things that go bump in the night, and there's unexplained foresight.
I'm Scottish, we call it the Gift, and it's surprisingly common among us. No one thinks anything strange of it, just sometimes someone knows without being told what the future will hold. It can't be 'used', or encouraged, or demanded of, or relied to appear; it just is.
For some it appears more often than others, those we'll say, "Have the Gift." and we all have stories of it happening to friends and family.
Someone who braggs of having it is generally scorned. It's a subtle thing.
cheers,
Toddy
oops, cross post with Treeclipper
I'm Scottish, we call it the Gift, and it's surprisingly common among us. No one thinks anything strange of it, just sometimes someone knows without being told what the future will hold. It can't be 'used', or encouraged, or demanded of, or relied to appear; it just is.
For some it appears more often than others, those we'll say, "Have the Gift." and we all have stories of it happening to friends and family.
Someone who braggs of having it is generally scorned. It's a subtle thing.
cheers,
Toddy
oops, cross post with Treeclipper
Intuition isn't mystical, it's experience and logic telling you that maybe you shouldn't poke that hornet's nest with a stick.
Ahem !
Gentlemen, please.
Tony's guidelines for the fourn say no swearing and that includes the asterisked out one.
We even have a special infraction label for offenders..............it's too late, I don't want to Mod you; pretty please, Edit your posts a little and mind the guidelines.
It's been an interesting ramble of a thread this one.
cheers,
Toddy
sorry for the swear word. Won't happen again.
i was talking about the kind of feeling that might occasionally enter your head, when logic and experience are telling you that everything is as normal.
i quite likely owe my life to just such an implausable thought
xylaria
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
When I worked in the casino in wolverhampton there was ghost that lived there. He liked poker sometimes but prefered brag. There was various incedents where a dealer would deal out the cards to the players that were on the table, only to find when they went around doing the bet or check the old guy in the brown suit wasn't there. The miss deal book the card room boss held was littered with sightings. The card room boss was a hard headed obnoxious man who was a atheist, but he ended up believing ghosts, and he read up on einsteins theory on what causes ghosts basically becuse he needed a rational explaintion for what he had seen. All the managers believed in ghosts, because the sightings were that common. The entire establishment was covered with CCTV, but they never showed anything. An entire work force can't mad or on drugs (some were!!).
The only time I felt creeped out in natural environment was epping forest just outside london. It was starting to get dark and suddenly I felt like the wood was getting nasty, like i wasn't wanted there. And there was the two horse carrage I saw on the old road to the stately home in Rush. I was about four years old, I jumped out of the way and scraped my knee. I ran home and told me mum how I scaped my knee. She told me to stop lying as the road to the stately home had been closed for decades.
What was Einstein's theory? I just finished a biography, and don't recall anything about that. A Google search only turns up one quote, when in reply to someone who asked, he said that he didn't believe in them.
(Fascinatingly enigmatic man, by the way - a genius who made a shambles of his personal life, and a pacifist who made nuclear war possible.)
Yeah I know what you mean with this. When my cousins daughter was a toddler, I handed her a teddybear and her hand touched mine as I did so. I got this forboding feeling she was dying even though she was perfectly healthy, I felt a real darkness behind her. about 6 months laterI had a dream her stomach was getting bigger and bigger and I screaming at her to go to hospital but she just stood and smiled at me. The sadness I felt in the dream was incredibly real. The next day my mum said they had gone to hospital to check a lump in her stomach, but it wasnt thought to be serious. I knew it would be because of the dream, its like I just expected this to happen. She had cancer and had had it for months. It was malignant and with a 2% chance of survival. They gave her massive doses of chemotherapy which was experimental because the cancer was rare they arent really sure how to treat it, we agreed to let her be a "lab rat" because it was the best course of action.
During this time (she was only 2) she begun talking of seeing our Nanna who had died when she was a baby. she would say things like "nanna came to see me last night" and that Nanna would visit her and hug her singing songs and holding daffodils. Daffodils were nanas favourite flower. We told her these were dreams and she looked hurt and said "well these dreams are when Im awake" We begun getting worried when nanna begun asking her if she would like to go and live with her. We told her to tell Nanna she was not allowed to go and live with her!
anyway, she has been very lucky and survived the cancer, it has been 5 years since then. While she was still small and bald she said many interesting things. We took her into a 500 year old farm house once, she would have been three because her brother was a baby. And she said, just between her and I, that the woodwork so so old, she had never seen such an old house. She tutted under her breath and said "but where is the dog?" then she says to me "oh its sad, the dog got killed" I later asked the farmer about his dog and he said he had run him over with the tractor.
She does not see Nanna anymore, and frequently asks why this isnt the case, she misses seeing nanna singing holding flowers and misses her hugs. Also unfortunately, her father died suddenly last year and she got very upset that she has never seen him the way she see's nanna.
I remember as well when she was very young she mentioned once before she was herself she was another girl who lived in norway with a different mother and was killed age 5, but she refused to mention it ever again, she was quite serious though, it wasnt a game to her.
she is amazing, its just sad she has suffered so much in a short life, far to young to be dealing with cancer and the death of a parent. She came to the bushmoot last year, but it was raining so much she wasnt really enjoying herself, which is a shame. I hope I didnt put her off!
If id had an aunty that took me to bushmoots, and fasinating things like that, when i was 5, she'd have been the coolest aunt ever! Gutsy little girl like her, i dont think a bit of rains gonna bother her much.
I guess that's what you call the '6th sense' I know a lot of people that would laugh in the face of anybody who mentioned seeing anything strange but if you described something like that to them they'd just reply 'yeah so what it's just the sixth sense'.
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