Unboxing the "Exped Scout Combi" hammock and tarp

seg1959

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(A similar version of this article has been posted over at the HF site)
Last Saturday I ordered myself an Exped Scout Combi hammock and tarp set.
Exped is a Swiss company known better for their "EXPED Downmats" - inflatable sleeping mats which are filled with down. They have a reputation for high quality products (I believe they offer a 5 year warranty), but they are not very well known in the hammock arena, and are certainly less know in the US than in Europe.
The "Exped Scout Combi" retails about £110 but is currently discounted by 50% in one particular on-line shop - this makes it a bargain at £55 inclusive of next day delivery.
I ordered it on Saturday morning and received it today (Monday morning).

This is a brief "first impressions" article, concentrating on a visual inspection of the contents; I will play with it next weekend and might add to this report.

So - first things first: the whole package (heavy duty cylindrical stuff sack 16in (40cm) tall x 5in (13cm) diameter containing tarp, tarp guy-lines, hammock, no-see-um net, tarp suspension) weights 1.9kg (4lb 3oz) - so it's a bit on the heavy side.
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My first reaction was that there was attention to detail there - and I like that!
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These are the contents of the stuff sack: The tarp, the hammock with a fine no-see-um cover and some heavy duty webbing lines:-
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So, let's look at the tarp first: I think it's a bit small at 3m x 1.5m (128in x 59in) but it looks very well made. It's made of PU coated taffeta nylon with a hydrostatic head of 10,000mm - that's *really* waterproof (I think most waterproof tents are in the 2,000 to 4,000 mm H2O range). By the way, "10,000mm hydrostatic head" means that you need a column of water 10,000mm = 10meters high to achieve the pressure needed to make water go through the material.
There are some nice touches there: The guy lines are in little mesh pouches to avoid tangling
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and when you get them out of the pouches, the pouches stay attached to the lines via 2 small loops:
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The loops for the ridge line are re-enforced nicely (triple layer) and have an additional strong elastic attached - this connects to the ridge line of the mosquito net to keep it nice and taught under the tarp:
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There are 3 guy lines on each long side of the tarp.

Next, the hammock itself:
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It comes with a built-in no-see-um cover made of grey mesh and 4 webbing lines (thick flat rope), each 2.5m /98in long, which have buttonholes-like openings every 10cm (4 in). (does anyone know how you use these?):
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Two of these lines are lose while the other two go through the channels at the end of the hammock:
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The width of the hammock is 145cm (58in) while the length is 300cm (about 120in)
The hammock is re-enforced with canvas type webbing at each end:
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There is an elastic ridge line that runs through the middle of the no-see-um netting to keep it off your face - this can connect to the elastic that comes off the tarp ridge line. There are also 3 fabric sleeves that can be used to hold a stick or trekking pole segments, in order to keep the net away from your body:
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There is a zip that runs the whole length of the hammock, to allow side entry:
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Once you open the zip, you see that the bottom is double and there is an opening to allow you to put a mat in between the layers. The edges of the opening are reinforced with a red thread - just visible in the pic but a nice little touch nevertheless.
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There four loops (2 one each side) you can attach shock cord to and pull the sides of the hammock in HH fashion.
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At each end of the hammock there is a very strong 1.5inch (or perhaps 2in) webbing with 2 very strong loops at each end - you can use that to attach a stretcher (e.g. your hiking poles) and make it into a bridge hammock:
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Now, re the weight: The hammock cannot be separated from the no-see-um net; they advise you to turn it upside down if you do not need the net and sleep on the "other side" - if you see what I mean.
So the Hammock + cord + no-see-um weights 1200g / 42oz.
The 4 webbing/ropes that come with it weight 50g/1 3/4oz each - so about 200g/7oz for all 4. You could replace them, e.g. by using lines from Opie - so there is some scope for weight reduction of perhaps 150grams.

First impressions are of high quality, strong, durable product with well thought out features. There are interior pockets for small personal items such as books, headlamps, glasses etc.
I love the quality of the tarp, but I think it's too small (width-wise) to be used in rainy weather.

I will add to this report when I set the tarp/hammock up and have a trial snooze in it.

Hope this will be of use to someone,
seg
 
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MikeE

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This is one heck of a tarp set up, it sounds and looks excellent! Be interesting to see how well it all works when you get the chance.
 

seg1959

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So, the rain stopped at 6.30pm today and I found some time to try and test-hang the Exped hammock. I did not have time to do a proper suspension, and the ground of my front garden is a bit uneven - so please ignore the hang angles etc. I got my youngest son to lie in to put some weight in it.
So here it is upside-down, with the net at the bottom - used as a summer hammock:
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This is the 'other' way to hang it, with the net held up by the build in shock cord only. My son is in and is about to zip it up:
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All zipped up and ready for a snooze!
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That's me in it now, showing you one of the two inside pockets:
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A small stick through the loops of the net does wonders for the internal space, keeping the net well away from your body. There are 3 sets of loops, one at each end and one in the middle of the net:
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So far I am quite please with it, it feels quite comfortable. I need to hang it properly and have a snooze and then report back! :)

seg
 

seg1959

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Great review thanks,tho i must say i cant see the difference to a much cheaper DD,but its very nice

I agree with you J4C3. I would not be able to justify the £110 tag - although the word is that the Exped products are supposed to be robust, and the combi comes with a 5 year warranty. So it seems they justify their price on quality.

Remember that the combi includes hammock *and* tarp, so at the sale price (£55), it's much cheaper than the equivalent DD combi:
The DD Frontline is £48, the DD Tarp is £29, total £77, making the Exped combi with its 5 year warranty a bargain at £55!!

seg
 

Radix lecti

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Im a ground dweller usually having never got on with some hammocks in the past, do you think this hammock could covert me to sleeping in the trees, it looks good. Shall i be tempted and go for one....
 

JonathanD

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Im a ground dweller usually having never got on with some hammocks in the past, do you think this hammock could covert me to sleeping in the trees, it looks good. Shall i be tempted and go for one....

If you've never got on with hammocks, then you should try a Hennessy. Their sleep system lets you sleep in all positions and almost flat diagonally across. It was the only hammock I could get along with for many years.
 

seg1959

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Im a ground dweller usually having never got on with some hammocks in the past, do you think this hammock could covert me to sleeping in the trees, it looks good. Shall i be tempted and go for one....

If you are a tight (prudent?) git like me, I would advise a cheap hammock (such as the tenth wonder on eBay) to try it out - about £14 I think? No frills, no net, but you will know if it;'s for you. Then you can upgrade to the more expensive models.

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JonathanD

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If you are a tight (prudent?) git like me, I would advise a cheap hammock (such as teh tenth wonder on eBay) to try it out - about £14 I think? No frills, no net, but you will know if it;'s for you. Then you can upgrade to teh more expensive models.

seg

Saying that though, this is a bargain and you are unlikely to lose any money in a resale.
 

Mojoracinguk

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This thread cost me Money:rolleyes:

found that site the day you posted this thread, ordered one off the back of your review.
Arrived within the next couple of days and.....nothing!
I have not had time to hang it yet :(

Still I could not find a bivibag and tarp at the right price .....so spent about twice as much on this :lmao: Now i feel guilty every time SWMBO asks if i've used it :eek:

Does look nice and I am looking forward to using it at my mates BBQ soon.

But don't think i'd buy one at full price although they do not look like seconds to me.
 

J4C3

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Seg good point well made,at that price its a steal i hope it lives up too the hype
I look forward to your posts on its long term use,sure looks well finished,liking those little pockets on the guylines
 

hanzo

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If you've never got on with hammocks, then you should try a Hennessy. Their sleep system lets you sleep in all positions and almost flat diagonally across. It was the only hammock I could get along with for many years.

I thought all hammocks will give you a pretty flat surface to sleep on if you lie diagonally. How does the bug net get affected if you lie diagonally? I take a cheap hammock camping and I find the kids just love it. They play in it all day long.
 

seg1959

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I thought all hammocks will give you a pretty flat surface to sleep on if you lie diagonally. How does the bug net get affected if you lie diagonally? I take a cheap hammock camping and I find the kids just love it. They play in it all day long.


I have just come back from 2 weeks on the Med where the temperature hit 46C (115F) during the day and 34C (about 92F?) at night, so I had the perfect excuse to use the hammock at night. I found a quiet spot in the garden to hang it and spend about 6-7 nights (plus the compulsory mid-day siestas!) in it.
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I was very comfortable, lying diagonally for a flatness. The net was not restricting, although I found that if I used a twig/small branch to support it (as in this picture)
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I had a palatial space. Without it, you occasionally get the net touching your face - although I sleep with my arm folded behind my head (if this makes sense) and this seems to keep the net away from my face even without it.

So, a happy camper and pretty pleased with it.

PS I checked with the shop and they confirmed they were *not* seconds.

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