Truth about down, Never realized it was like this...

[ADz-1983]

Very disturbing. I'm going to be thinking twice next time I fancy a down based bit of gear

[video=youtube;hX0fbyeJAQU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX0fbyeJAQU[/video]

 

[ozzy1977]

Wasnt this rought up a couple of weeks ago?

 

[ADz-1983]

Wasnt this rought up a couple of weeks ago?

Didn't/Don't see any specific topics about it and its hard to search for down as its a too common a word on site.

 

[Dougster]

Alpkit made a statement on this and made a commitment to only use by product down I believe.

 

[ADz-1983]

Alpkit made a statement on this and made a commitment to only use by product down I believe.

Mountain Equipment apparently also say they use ethical down but tbh I don't really think these PR statements can be trusted. Just look what happens in the coco/coffee industry etc.

 

[Mick721]

Wasnt this rought up a couple of weeks ago?

Yep I posted this vid/topic up in fair game recently.

 

[Imagedude]

I'm sure that the production of synthetic fillings is no less disturbing...

 

[sandbender]

I'm sure that the production of synthetic fillings is no less disturbing...

Maybe not to watch but in terms of long term damage to the environment probably more so.

 

[MongooseDownUnder]

I prefer synthetic anyway unless some comes up with a way to make wool lighter. But this video is not really surprising especially when the price of some down products is quite cheap.

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[uncleboob]

Everything we use has a consequence, intentional or not, either for the animals that are the source of the down, leather etc or for the environment in terms of things like micro polutants. I guess we all have to take some responsibility for the impact we have through the decisions we make. This is an interesting link

http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/wi...-from-synthetic-fibers-is-polluting-the-ocean


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[BillyBlade]

Thats why I went with Marmot for my down bag. They are very open about the ethics they use in harvesting their down, and although thats impacted in the higher cost, so be it.

 

[CLEM]

I'am not going to look at that video, but please tell me that bird ain't alive

 

[Dougster]

Mountain Equipment apparently also say they use ethical down but tbh I don't really think these PR statements can be trusted. Just look what happens in the coco/coffee industry etc.

I'm sure they wouldn't make a standard and then breach it? That would make no sense at all.

 

[kiltedpict]

I stopped looking at cheap down jackets a while ago. I'm prepared to save a bit longer to get one where the down is a by-product. I agree though it can be tricky to know your doing the right thing with the manufacturer you choose.

 

[dave53]

i onder if the people plucking were wearing masks ?

 

[Tengu]

Its some ploy to make you spend more money. (Says she whos down products are all second hand.)

sandbender, you are probably right.

Has anyone done a survey amungst birds to see how they feel about down? (or dinosaurs who use down products a lot these days)

(Yes, I still regret walking past that nesting eider...)

 

[British Red]

I'am not going to look at that video, but please tell me that bird ain't alive

Of course its alive, that's how they make cheap down - pluck the birds alive and let it regrow - then do it again.

 

[Teepee]

http://www.idfl.com/#Europe

More reading for those that are interested from the International down and feather laboratory.

 

[daveO]

http://www.veterinarypracticenews.c.../bond-beyond/down-with-live-plucked-down.aspx

A bit more info for clarification.

 

[Dave]

If you search for 'live plucking' its been discussed before.

Terrible practices. All my Downs ethically sourced.