Tree-Felling Without an Axe !
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andyn
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Patrick,
I think you need to cut down on the Irn Bru... Haven't seen mad eyes like that since the local all night garage was doing 3x750ml glass bottles for 99p (and you got 60 of that back in bottle deposit!) :aargh4:
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I think you need to cut down on the Irn Bru... Haven't seen mad eyes like that since the local all night garage was doing 3x750ml glass bottles for 99p (and you got 60 of that back in bottle deposit!) :aargh4:
Montivagus: Stake and chips - Classic!
BOD
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Enjoyed this post very much.
Would also like to applaud the way Patrick has used the site to share information through his excellent tutorials and other contributions.
Although I am half a world away, have never met him and unlikely ever to be a client of his, the stuff I have seen from Patrick and Backwoods makes me confident to refer to his school young GAP volunteers and other people from the UK whom I meet out here who show an interest in bushcraft .
Please keep up the good work Patrick
Would also like to applaud the way Patrick has used the site to share information through his excellent tutorials and other contributions.
Although I am half a world away, have never met him and unlikely ever to be a client of his, the stuff I have seen from Patrick and Backwoods makes me confident to refer to his school young GAP volunteers and other people from the UK whom I meet out here who show an interest in bushcraft .
Please keep up the good work Patrick
Must,ve been some thickie pupils at that teach-in.
They really had no idea what a beaver was, eh?
Ceeg
They really had no idea what a beaver was, eh?
Ceeg
Makes you think though; we use high grade steel nowadays to do that, a beaver simply uses its teeth 
Our ancestors used stone.
How many ways can you think of to cut down a tree without using metal tools?
Cheers,
Toddy
Our ancestors used stone.How many ways can you think of to cut down a tree without using metal tools?
Cheers,
Toddy
Umm, leave it in this one or start another one
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It is interesting to think that for many the main building materials of the past have been wood, how did they used to harvest it and shape it, sure some used flint tools but that must have taken a long time to develop as well, what did they do before that and even after that. What materials are good enough to work on wood? Obviously steel, which has been around for quite a while, but early on the steel wasnt good at all
Can wood be used to shape wood? I know that fire can.
One of the points raised by Patrick is that theres a little beaver that takes down a tree with no tool (although obviously hes got his teeth!) could we do the same
It is interesting to think that for many the main building materials of the past have been wood, how did they used to harvest it and shape it, sure some used flint tools but that must have taken a long time to develop as well, what did they do before that and even after that. What materials are good enough to work on wood? Obviously steel, which has been around for quite a while, but early on the steel wasnt good at all
Can wood be used to shape wood? I know that fire can.
One of the points raised by Patrick is that theres a little beaver that takes down a tree with no tool (although obviously hes got his teeth!) could we do the same
The Chinese used to cut and shape jade and other precious and semi-precious stones with a "mud saw" - just string and gritty mud. Incredibly slow but very accurate. Works like grinding valves.
Red
Red
i've read (but never tried) about saws made from bamboo.
a lot would depend on the relative density ofthe woods in question
a lot would depend on the relative density ofthe woods in question
Ive no idea if they ever used to do this but Patrick got me thinking
.yeah, hes got a lot to answer for 
Could you mount teeth in a length of wood and then use it as a saw?
Could you mount teeth in a length of wood and then use it as a saw?
Hmmm, this is indeed a thought inducing topic, now.
Two things that spring to my mind, though both of them are separated by timescale, I think.
One, was some reference I,d read, about embedding shards of flint into a growing sapling.....originally to provide a rather nasty war- cosh, but I suppose it could,ve been adapted to make a saw, of sorts.
Second, was a kind of verification of the power of abrasive grit, it was the prog where Egyptol,s demonstrated how it was poss to saw the stone that they used in the monuments..the medium, IIRC, was sand.
But, hang on, cos they had a bronze sheet... so that one wouldnt hold up.
Make it just the one, then.
Ceeg
Two things that spring to my mind, though both of them are separated by timescale, I think.
One, was some reference I,d read, about embedding shards of flint into a growing sapling.....originally to provide a rather nasty war- cosh, but I suppose it could,ve been adapted to make a saw, of sorts.
Second, was a kind of verification of the power of abrasive grit, it was the prog where Egyptol,s demonstrated how it was poss to saw the stone that they used in the monuments..the medium, IIRC, was sand.
But, hang on, cos they had a bronze sheet... so that one wouldnt hold up.
Make it just the one, then.
Ceeg
Tony said:
It also raises the question, wether the old ,uns could,ve been quite so commited to community projects.
Maybe so, but, didnt they tend to ruin their gnashers in short order, anyway?
So, perhaps this was the start of the sewing-circle?
Ceeg
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