Late to the thread, but it came about so that kids could go to and from school in daylight. At least that's always been my understanding of it.
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I got taught that time shifting was due to one body moving (relatively) faster than another.
The body moving faster experiences time more slowly than the body moving slower.
Think I got that the right way round....
The body moving faster experiences time more slowly than the body moving slower.
Think I got that the right way round....
That's relativity (which you alluded to in your post lol) Einstein's fault. I just remember what he said. Please dont shoot the messenger Once is enough for me.
It's a weird subject. Why it began and why it continues are not the same reason, or from the same place.. There are many arguments for and against it...
The first time that happened would also be the last time.
I bill for the hours I work and my invoice doesn't lie.
About 10.30 last night I realised I'd failed to remind the Old Man about the clocks, and knew the inevitable result. 6.30 on the dot, he's getting up an hour early. I wouldn't mind, except he'll randomly oversleep until gone eight often enough, so why couldn't today have been one of those days?!
After my whining about it all, I quite enjoyed getting up early today to take Finn out into the woods. It coincided with the first frost I've seen this year! Not very widespread, but some nice frosty areas of moss and grass in the shade in the woods. We enjoyed the sunrise on the drive there.
The forecast said it was going to get down to 'feels like' -1C so was keen to get out in it. Can't beat a cold, clear morning in autumnal woodland.
The forecast said it was going to get down to 'feels like' -1C so was keen to get out in it. Can't beat a cold, clear morning in autumnal woodland.
That was an unplanned benefit but the real reason was to save on lighting costs.
Various safety groups now argue against re-introducing BST double time again because children would have to go to school in the dark, especially in Scotland. Personally speaking, I'd much prefer to have it stay brighter in the evenings. Also, if kids can manage to go to school safely in the more northern European countries where it's much shorter daytime hours there wouldn't be any real impact to childrens safety here.
I remember a period when Britain ran on a different BST - British Standard Time. This was just British Summer Time all year round. It meant that children were going to school in the rush hour in darkness. You could see lines of children in hi-viz waistcoats or reflective SamBrowns. There was a boom-trade in flashing epaulettes and all sorts of flickering and flashing light-wear.
Lighting with LED’s means that we are using anywhere up to 80% less power per lamp than we were when Daylight Saving was introduced. It’s an obsolete concept.
(I recognise that we light things much brighter now than we did in the 40’s and 50’s but still nothing like the power we used to put into a tungsten lamp.
Just leave the clocks at GMT and if you want more light then get up earlier.
Lighting with LED’s means that we are using anywhere up to 80% less power per lamp than we were when Daylight Saving was introduced. It’s an obsolete concept.
(I recognise that we light things much brighter now than we did in the 40’s and 50’s but still nothing like the power we used to put into a tungsten lamp.
Just leave the clocks at GMT and if you want more light then get up earlier.
Don’t worry, kids all go to school in Range Rover Sport and Ford Ranger pickup trucks these days. Smaller the child, the larger the car.
It's part of the school uniforms here; the kids have dayglo vests. Even the nursery kids out for their mid day walk, including the babies in the buggies, they have to wear them too 
It's kind of cute
It's kind of cute
I'm tired of all this BST / DST / GMT nonsense.
I believe the best thing to do is for us to go metric:
10 seconds in a minute;
10 minutes in an hour;
10 hours in a day (and consequently 10 Time Zones on Earth);
10 days in a week;
10 weeks in a month;
10 months in year (those to date who were born in November or December would obviously be executed for the common good);
10 years in a decade (already got that);
10 decades in a century (ditto).
Simples, innit? And much easier to learn.
Another viable alternative is stick with the system we've got (60 seconds, 60 minutes, 24 hours, etc.) and adjust the actual length of the seconds, minutes, etc. as the weeks go by in order to coincide with sunrise and sunset each day - using the basic premise that sunrise is always to be 0600 and sunset is always to be 1800. Each day will have the same number of hours as each night. At most times of the year the length of a minute / hour / etc. during the day will be longer than one at night and v.v.
So, assuming youngsters set off for school at 0800, 2 hours after sunrise, and return at 1600, 2 hours before sunset, they'll always be travelling in daylight. OK, the school day - and our working day - will seem to be quite long during part of the year and quite short during the rest. But it will always be the same number of hours.
It might seem complicated but you can always get an App for it...
I believe the best thing to do is for us to go metric:
10 seconds in a minute;
10 minutes in an hour;
10 hours in a day (and consequently 10 Time Zones on Earth);
10 days in a week;
10 weeks in a month;
10 months in year (those to date who were born in November or December would obviously be executed for the common good);
10 years in a decade (already got that);
10 decades in a century (ditto).
Simples, innit? And much easier to learn.
Another viable alternative is stick with the system we've got (60 seconds, 60 minutes, 24 hours, etc.) and adjust the actual length of the seconds, minutes, etc. as the weeks go by in order to coincide with sunrise and sunset each day - using the basic premise that sunrise is always to be 0600 and sunset is always to be 1800. Each day will have the same number of hours as each night. At most times of the year the length of a minute / hour / etc. during the day will be longer than one at night and v.v.
So, assuming youngsters set off for school at 0800, 2 hours after sunrise, and return at 1600, 2 hours before sunset, they'll always be travelling in daylight. OK, the school day - and our working day - will seem to be quite long during part of the year and quite short during the rest. But it will always be the same number of hours.
It might seem complicated but you can always get an App for it...
Why not just look at the sun and make your own choices. It’s a system that has worked well far far longer that the invention of clocks.
Have a single handed clock where coordination is really essential.
…… this does work well. It’s exactly what I work To at home.
Oh I’ve got my phone and an oven timer for coordination outside of the home.
Have a single handed clock where coordination is really essential.
…… this does work well. It’s exactly what I work To at home.
Oh I’ve got my phone and an oven timer for coordination outside of the home.
Unfortunately a lot of people don’t have this luxury, due to school and business hours.
Neither do I. It’s a question of degree and approach. I’ve always wanted To free myself from the tyranny of the clock so I take every opportunity to do so. Self employment, an adult family and then retirement have meant that I can pursue this freedom to a greater and greater degree.
Edited to add:
I’d use a one handed watch but they cost much more than I would ever pay for the temporal parasite. This is because they aren’t hour clocks but insist on dials that, in one way or another, chase minutes, sometimes in very complicated ways.
Edited to add:
I’d use a one handed watch but they cost much more than I would ever pay for the temporal parasite. This is because they aren’t hour clocks but insist on dials that, in one way or another, chase minutes, sometimes in very complicated ways.
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