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[Pattree]

@bearbait

Can't see the logic in the asymmetry myself

I don’t know the answer to this but I have an idea.
When I worked in Africa sunset was almost like a switch, very much more sudden than here at 52 North. The surface of the planet is moving faster at the equator.
The difference between sun set and dark, dawn and sunrise is up to an hour in UK. Headlights are not legally required here until somewhere between 20 and 45 minutes after sunset.

 

[Glow_worm]

Dipped beam is required between half an hour after sunset and half an hour before sunrise (it used to be an hour).

Until the 1930s motoring magazines published tables of 'lighting up time' for motorists for the coming month. Although by the 30s electric lighting had just about replaced acetylene (gas) and oil lamps...

 

[Pattree]

My satnav is very optimistic about what it thinks I can see after sunset before it goes into night mode.

……. except for a few hundred yards between two bridges on the A5 when it’s always changes to night mode.
DAM!

 

[Toddy]

No, just the way of BCUK - you ask a question, there's no real valid reply, so the thread just goes on its own meander. The real problem is I'm hungry now

You're hungry ?
I made scones

 

[Broch]

You're hungry ?
I made scones

It's a bit far to travel, but thanks for the invite

 

[demented dale]

@bearbait


I don’t know the answer to this but I have an idea.
When I worked in Africa sunset was almost like a switch, very much more sudden than here at 52 North. The surface of the planet is moving faster at the equator.
The difference between sun set and dark, dawn and sunrise is up to an hour in UK. Headlights are not legally required here until somewhere between 20 and 45 minutes after sunset.

In Finland everybody has to have their vehicle headlights on at all times. Even sunny days. I thought it was ridiculous. Some idiot in an office somewhere. Needless to say I didn't put mine on ever. dd x

 

[Stew]

You're hungry ?
I made scones

I’ve just got home from the eldest’s rugby - I was hoping that scones were being baked by the youngest. They’re not but it’s not a total loss as arencini balls are being attempted!

 

[MrEd]

I have now carried out a full and detailed study of the whole scones, jam, and cream situation. This is based on scientific experiments involving a great deal of personal sacrifice to determine the answer (i.e. eating a lot of scones).

And, the answer is:

It depends!

If you are using clotted cream, the cream is too thick to spread on jam, so the cream has to go down first.

If you are using whipped cream, it's impossible to spread jam on top of it, so the jam has to go down first.

Using butter is just not acceptable under any circumstances.

Why on earth would you put whipped cream on a scone

 

[Broch]

Whereas I agree that clotted cream is the norm, outside of Cornwall and Devon, caffes often serve scones with whipped cream.

The reason, apparently, for the cream/jam/cream debate is that Cornish clotted cream is not as thick as Devon clotted cream (only Cornish cream is name protected) so is put on top of the jam!

 

[TeeDee]

Whereas I agree that clotted cream is the norm, outside of Cornwall and Devon, caffes often serve scones with whipped cream.

The reason, apparently, for the cream/jam/cream debate is that Cornish clotted cream is not as thick as Devon clotted cream (only Cornish cream is name protected) so is put on top of the jam!

That would be due to them cutting it with 'other product' - making it go further so they can service the tourists needs - think of it like a clotted cream opposing cartel.


Like a west country Sicario...


( Whipped cream?!? Heathens. )

 

[Toddy]

Truthfully ? I prefer jam and cheese on my scone

 

[nigelp]

Peanut butter and jam on a fruit scone is quite nice…

 

[TeeDee]

< end times are upon us >

 

[Stew]

Peanut butter and jam on a fruit scone is quite nice…

Where’s the ban hammer?

 

[nigelp]

< end times are upon us >

It is written.
“And yea, the heathen hoard will descend on the west (country) and commit the foulest of sins upon the holy scone…”

 

[Nice65]

In Finland everybody has to have their vehicle headlights on at all times. Even sunny days. I thought it was ridiculous. Some idiot in an office somewhere. Needless to say I didn't put mine on ever. dd x

There’s strong evidence to support a significant reduction in accidents. It’s also law in many parts of the USA and Canada where roads are long and straight. You can see headlights long before seeing the vehicle.

I had a Volvo estate for years in the UK that had hardwired running lights, and got flashed all the time because my lights were on. But drive on a murky day in a grey or darker coloured car under tree canopy and running lights are definitely the first thing you see. They reduce accidents and weren’t thought up by an idiot in an office. 8.8 - 15% reduction isn’t idiocy.

 

[demented dale]

There’s strong evidence to support a significant reduction in accidents. It’s also law in many parts of the USA and Canada where roads are long and straight. You can see headlights long before seeing the vehicle.

I had a Volvo estate for years in the UK that had hardwired running lights, and got flashed all the time because my lights were on. But drive on a murky day in a grey or darker coloured car under tree canopy and running lights are definitely the first thing you see. They reduce accidents and weren’t thought up by an idiot in an office. 8.8 - 15% reduction isn’t idiocy.

Ok, I am prepared to stand corrected. You said 'strong evidence' Can you produce it? DD x

 

[Stew]

Ok, I am prepared to stand corrected. You said 'strong evidence' Can you produce it? DD x

A quick google....

https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/809760

 

[Pattree]

That’sa pretty comprehensive response!

 

[Nice65]

A quick google....

https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/809760

Cheers Stew, I was just about to do very straightforward googling myself, nice one.

There are many other studies, I found figures of anything from 8.8% here:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022437523000099

To 15%, though I can’t find the link to that now.