See above Yes, it’s painful not to be milked. If the nursing mothers I’ve known are to be believed it’s also true of humans.Do they get a positive reinforcement after ? Food ? Or is it painful for Cows to NOT be milked? Is it a relief.
See above Yes, it’s painful not to be milked. If the nursing mothers I’ve known are to be believed it’s also true of humans.Do they get a positive reinforcement after ? Food ? Or is it painful for Cows to NOT be milked? Is it a relief.
Yes but as PaulB said, organizations like PETA usually over dramatize.Cows are bred to produce so much milk it hurts. Don't what ever you do look on the peta website, it is so sad.
Cows are bred to produce so much milk it hurts. Don't what ever you do look on the peta website, it is so sad.
See above Yes, it’s painful not to be milked. If the nursing mothers I’ve known are to be believed it’s also true of humans.
No, what did i do
I think the “intelligence” thing comes in simply by learning what needs to be done to relieve that pain. I’m sure they don’t understand “why” or “how” it relieves the pain, but they do learn that taking certain actions such as getting into the stalls and being hooked up gives the desired result. Does that make sense?Then I'm not sure if that's an act of Pure intelligence ? to go to somewhere that brings relief from Pain?? Maybe wrong.
Do they get a positive reinforcement after ? Food ? Or is it painful for Cows to NOT be milked? Is it a relief.
Are you sure? I can easily see how they’d learn to gladly enter the stalls once they learn it relieves the pain and pressure on their mammaries, but I can’t imagine how the milking lines would get attached to the teats without human hands?
And so incorrect in a lot of what they say or publish. It's a hypocritical organisation for activists more interested in activism than truth.Cows are bred to produce so much milk it hurts. Don't what ever you do look on the peta website, it is so sad.
You shouldn't have looked. No good came of it.They've been shown to be deliberately misleading. For example one of their videos of British location was tracked back to Asia. That's often the case.
I've lived near farms most of my life so I know they're not countryfile rosy. In fact farmers I know don't see that programme as being about farming these days, kind of not reality of it. They do occasionally get things right though most of the time they're more hobby programme for non farmers. Perhaps a bit unfair. It's really why I rarely watch it. It's more about the presenters looking good IMHO.Whereas I agree with your comment Paul about activist organisations and websites, I must point out that Countryfile is also propaganda - the fairy tale farming they depict is rarely what goes on in practice - I should point out that I worked as a farm labourer in my youth and now live surrounded by farms of various sizes.
I didn't, a friend sent me to a farming link where they showed the proof of their lies.
In case you hadn't guessed I'm tending to be pro farming and anti what used to be called animal libbers but now have morphed into anything from vegan activists to extreme anti farming activists. One story relatively locally was when a mink farm got raided by animal libbers near Garstang I believe. They opened all the cages and let them out!!!
I bet you can guess what negative impact that had!! Then years later I saw a mink on the bank of the River Lune where I was kayaking. A friend's parents owned a canal barge moored at Galgate near Lancaster. A fellow boater saw two mink climbing into their boat. Then saw them come out n again 20 minutes later. The insurance claim was for £20,000!!!!!! Paid out in full. I believe it's been 30 or 40 years since their release and they're still here.
I am often told I am cruel by anti hunters who then say they get their meat from the supermarket.
Exactly. I feel sad every time I kill a deer, but relieved that it met it's end humanely and proud when it's on the plate.That's the bit I really don't understand - Its a Kinda Food hypocrisy , It seems that its OK to consume Meat but not to be the One doing the dispatching. And Don't get me wrong I get no sick pleasure from Hunting or dispatching an animal its just the required element to be able to enjoy the product.