The Titanic sinking conspiracy theory

santaman2000

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What, like this?

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Si

Again. Remember that wasn't a whole aircraft flying into something under power; it was pieces falling to earth by gravity AFTER the plane broke up. A completely different scenario.
 

santaman2000

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See that turbine? The official line says that's a honeywell gas turbine from the tail section of the airliner. Honeywell later declared that's not one of ours and we certainly didn't fit that into a an airliner.

The ground was salted with wreckage. And those parts inside were investigated and found not to be from an airliner matching flight 77.

How odd

Really? Investigated by whom? And why are they more reliable (or trustworthy) than the official invetigators?
 

Urban X

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Again. Remember that wasn't a whole aircraft flying into something under power; it was pieces falling to earth by gravity AFTER the plane broke up. A completely different scenario.

Yeah but look at the devastation those 'pieces' caused and then the 'hole' that an entire aircraft supposedly flew into, I just don't buy it sorry mate, I'm not having that at all vaporised or not there'd be more of a 'hole' than they're trying to make us believe in lol. :D


Si
 

ged

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... What made me question the official word was this bit of footage, then I dug a bit deeper. including the Van Allen belt, radiation shielding on the rockets and Lunar module and Command vehicle, Saturn 5 engines compared to the Space Shuttles etc. Make up your own mind

Pretty breezy for the vacuum of space and where are the stars? ...

You need to give us some figures for the radiation thing, waving your arms around and screaming that it's deadly dangerous isn't very persuasive. When you've given us the figures we'll be able to tell you (a) if they make any sense and (b) if they would do a human any harm.

I can't comment on the engines thing as I've no idea what the question is.

As for the lack of stars in a photograph, try photographing stars using 100ASA film at f/16 and 1/125 of a second and see how far you get.

Somewhere else there's some nonsense about a hill appearing in several different shots when it shouldn't. Don't forget that on the moon there's no atmosphere. So on the moon, your view of a mountain 100 miles away is as clear as that of a mound a hundred yards away.

I listened to all the Apollo missions on the radio, as they happened. I remember how we all cheered when the guys in Apollo 8 said 'hello' after that nail-biting first trip into radio silence around the back of the moon.

I watched Neil Armstrong take the first step onto the moon as he did it. Yes, he really did do it. But you don't have to take my word for it, because he brought back some souvenirs. The Apollo astronauts brought back almost half a ton of moon rocks. NASA sent samples of them to scientific establishments all around the world. To any geologist worth his salt it is almost childsplay to determine that those rocks could not have come from Earth.

Sorry Aaron, but you've been had.
 

Huon

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Really? Investigated by whom? And why are they more reliable (or trustworthy) than the official invetigators?

Sorry Santaman but you're wrong on that. It was a hoax crash because of the lack of debris. And if by chance there was debris it was the wrong sort of debris ;)

There is precedent for this that everyone in the UK can relate too.

British Rail regularly grinds to a halt because of the 'wrong sort of snow'. It is not their fault.

Same principle here alas :(
 

wingstoo

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That IS what "vaporized" means isn't it? Turned into "vapor?"

Ooops, bad use of words there...Would the quantity of metal that is supposed to have been vaporised all have disappeared or would there still be pools of metal left, the aircraft I saw in Wales had nowhere near the quantity of metal in it as the modern planes do, but were still carrying fuel which caused sections of the plane to melt into pools of aluminium which has left the ground pretty much dead beneath it for over 60 years.
 

wattsy

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impact doesn't mean explode, and aluminium burns very well it isn't found on its own because its too reactive.
 

nuggets

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That half ton of `moon` rock could have been an asteroid that landed on earth - could you tell the differance between the two ???
 

Huon

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That half ton of `moon` rock could have been an asteroid that landed on earth - could you tell the differance between the two ???

Quite right and once the asteroid has passed through the astronomical levels of radiation in the Van Allen belt it could have changed even more. It may have hit the Pentagon too.
 

HillBill

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Yep. You'd think those damned CIA stooges would have faked their security camera footage better than that. Even my son could manage to get a better fake video together.
Say what you like mate. thats the "official" security video released by the US gov.

Pause it at 4 seconds in and you can just make out the nose of what ever did hit it. It wasn't flight 77, the nose of the plane is way more blunt than the nose poking in on the video. Which is much more narrow and streamlined.

Heres flight 77 for reference

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Huon

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Say what you like mate. thats the "official" security video released by the US gov.

Pause it at 4 seconds in and you can just make out the nose of what ever did hit it. It wasn't flight 77, the nose of the plane is way more blunt than the nose poking in on the video. Which is much more narrow and streamlined.

Heres flight 77 for reference

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Lord knows - it is security camera footage after all :)

If the plane came in at an oblique angle as claimed then what you can see could just as easily be wing tip.
 

Urban X

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Pause it at 4 seconds in and you can just make out the nose of what ever did hit it. It wasn't flight 77, the nose of the plane is way more blunt than the nose poking in on the video. Which is much more narrow and streamlined.

Looks to be one hell of alot faster than a plane too.


Si
 

Andy BB

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The funniest thing about all this is the belief in the virtual omnipotence of "them". "They" can do anything, keep hundreds of thousands of people and numerous states antithetical to their aims from "betraying" secrets, clean any site with total efficiency, etc etc etc. And at the lead of the van is the CIA.

This is the organisation that failed 30 times to kill Castro, by all accounts! And let nasty little secrets like rendition/Abu Graib leak out. Vietnam. Bay of Pigs - WMDs - Watergate - the list of cock-ups is fairly large. Yet the foil-hat brigade would have us believe they're seamlessly fronting up conspiracies the like of which make the previous "errors" pale into insignificance!

Some "omnipotence"! Quite frankly, if you believe that you'll believe anything..............

Far better to believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster................
 

Huon

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The funniest thing about all this is the belief in the virtual omnipotence of "them". "They" can do anything, keep hundreds of thousands of people and numerous states antithetical to their aims from "betraying" secrets, clean any site with total efficiency, etc etc etc. And at the lead of the van is the CIA.

This is the organisation that failed 30 times to kill Castro, by all accounts! And let nasty little secrets like rendition/Abu Graib leak out. Vietnam. Bay of Pigs - WMDs - Watergate - the list of cock-ups is fairly large. Yet the foil-hat brigade would have us believe they're seamlessly fronting up conspiracies the like of which make the previous "errors" pale into insignificance!

Some "omnipotence"! Quite frankly, if you believe that you'll believe anything..............

Far better to believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster................

Jest not! The penguin/puffin wars over the spaghetti farms in the Antarctic are a serious matter. If the superior penguin technology wasn't used almost constantly to cloud human perceptions all hell would have broken loose by now. The Flying Spaghetti Monster plays a small but vital role in keeping the penguin supply lines open. Logistics, logistics, logistics....
 

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