Your right Steve. I'm almost certain that most people on this forum don't go out like us. That's because the embarrassment that is your amateurish thrown-together vision of what constitutes as a suitible 'bag & a basha' setup, frequently ends up looking like there has been a rather messy and probably fatal parachute accident in the woods!!
All the feedback I've recieved from members of this forum on questions I have asked has been a fast track way of ending up with kit that I am very happy with, as opposed to spuffing my hard earned cash on toss.
Both You AND Mouse have lowered the tone yet again on a thread that initially started as an adult and very interesting discussion on medium to large sized tarpaulins. I would never take any advice from either of you about kit, as most of yours is pulled out of skips or just nicked ("urban foraging" as you call it) and Mouse is some maniac who thinks spending winter in an issue jungle bag is "funny"; storing an axe safely is having it buried in his knee cap; and that eating large quantities of Fly Agaric for breakfast is perfectly safe despite experiencing chronic sickness & profound recurring lucid dreams that he actually had a large Jamaican girlfriend.
The two of you make a mockery of bushcraft and this forum. Now please, make your leave from this post and let us resume the enlightening debate on medium to large sized tarpaulins, THAT I have you know, has had a hand in me ultimately providing you cretins with a dry & pleasant base camp on our last bimble.