Ten Best Survival experts

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santaman2000

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Bit of a difference between a serial paedophile and a poor employer lol Santaman.
To an extent, yes. But TBH, the media would likely be less interested in a story about an outdoorsman than they would the pedophile. Less spectacular story don't you think?
 

Laurentius

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Harry Patch, born in the 19th Century, died in the 21st, survived the horrors of the 1st World War and everything else in the twentieth century
 

presterjohn

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Harry Patch, born in the 19th Century, died in the 21st, survived the horrors of the 1st World War and everything else in the twentieth century
Come off it. Harry Patch came across as a wise and decent man and his death certainly marked the end of an era but apart from having good genes and a bit of luck on his side during the war (in which he served for only a few months before being injured and sent home).

I have full respect for the fellow but a survival expert he was not.
 

santaman2000

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You really have no idea about the UK chap or how its media works come to that.
So are you saying they'd jump at a chance to expose an outdoorsman as a fake or a bad employer? Does the UK media or general public really care about such a story so much they'd actually be more interested (either the media or the public) in that than they would a story about a popular television wish granter who turned out to be a pedophile? If so, then you're absolutely right, I have no idea.
 
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Toddy

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It's a different world view.

Example....JKRowling's editor blabbed to his missus that JK was really the author behind some new mystery writer. Aforesaid missus blethered to her friend, a journalist :rolleyes: who outed it on the national newspaper network.
JKR sued her editor's company and won, the editor made one heartfelt apology, a charity got a donation (no figure given that I read of) and silence is the final result.

We don't do huge financial penalties, we don't do huge exposés, we do do the whole, "You're an idiot, now be a good chap and shut up."
We don't have a horrendously litigatious society, though it's increasing prediliction worries us.

Who's the best survival expert ?.....one of those worn to the bone wee African grannies, trying to breast feed a newborn great grandchild because the mother, the father, and her own children, are all dead with HIV related illnesses, while she still farms without power tools or electricity or running water for basic sustenance.
That's survival; for the rest of the 'experts' survival is just a chosen way of life.

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santaman2000

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It's a different world view.

Example....JKRowling's editor blabbed to his missus that JK was really the author behind some new mystery writer. Aforesaid missus blethered to her friend, a journalist :rolleyes: who outed it on the national newspaper network.
JKR sued her editor's company and won, the editor made one heartfelt apology, a charity got a donation (no figure given that I read of) and silence is the final result.

We don't do huge financial penalties, we don't do huge exposés, we do do the whole, "You're an idiot, now be a good chap and shut up."
We don't have a horrendously litigatious society, though it's increasing prediliction worries us.....
Fair enough. And it worries me too (the litigious bit) Both there and here. That said, the litigation and the newsworthiness are two separate issues. And anyone who believes your media and ours are two separate entities doesn't understand modern multinational corporations.
 

rik_uk3

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Fair enough. And it worries me too (the litigious bit) Both there and here. That said, the litigation and the newsworthiness are two separate issues. And anyone who believes your media and ours are two separate entities doesn't understand modern multinational corporations.
In your opinion.
 

Toddy

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....and they made him Chief Scout.
Apparantly he's doing a good job of it and the kids love him.

He really was a 'media' survivalist though.

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santaman2000

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he's an outdoors example

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7304617.stm

so this guy was on national news making a public appology because his TV show wasn't 100% in the wild taking up more air time than the news that Castro had stood down

go figure...
TBH, Castro stopped being newsworthy decades ago though. He'd become a dottering old man largely ignored by the world.

And just how much time did either story take? Five minutes? Fifteen? Doubtful if it was any more for both combined. Not really that long is it? Jimmy Savile's story took up 20 to 30 minute discussions two or three times a day on multiple stations for over a month.
 
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chimpy leon

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So Cody Lundin:
I watched him and Dave Canterbury out in the African bush, surrounded by the worlds deadliest animals, Dave was out making shelter / finding water and Cody was just casually sitting their decorating this item (I can't remember exactly what it was) with beads and ribbons!?

His hair with ribbons in and even his lack of footwear for sub-zero temperatures I can forgive, but this made me question his sanity a little bit... Is he a full deck?
 

santaman2000

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So Cody Lundin:
I watched him and Dave Canterbury out in the African bush, surrounded by the worlds deadliest animals, Dave was out making shelter / finding water and Cody was just casually sitting their decorating this item (I can't remember exactly what it was) with beads and ribbons!?

His hair with ribbons in and even his lack of footwear for sub-zero temperatures I can forgive, but this made me question his sanity a little bit... Is he a full deck?
Realistically, that difference between them was what made the show a success. many viewers picked one or the other for their favorite and rooted for him to prove the other wrong. Other viewers liked the way they always played off each other's strength. The show just wouldn't have been the same without their glaring differences.
 

chimpy leon

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Realistically, that difference between them was what made the show a success. many viewers picked one or the other for their favorite and rooted for him to prove the other wrong. Other viewers liked the way they always played off each other's strength. The show just wouldn't have been the same without their glaring differences.
Dont get me wrong I think he's good at what he does and a lot of what he says makes sense, but sometimes his descisions just baffle me.
 

rik_uk3

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International corporations are hardly an "opinion." They're an economic fact. Do you really believe BBC only broadcasts in the UK? Or Rupert Murdoch? Or any media outlet you care to name?
No, I have American friends who listen to the beeb. Whats your point, you've drifted a little.
 

santaman2000

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No, I have American friends who listen to the beeb. Whats your point, you've drifted a little.
In post #88 you highlighted my comment that the news media are multi national corporations rather than separate entities in separate countries and your reply was that that was my opinion.

I'm not drifting. Just saying that no, the media isn't a separate entity in each country (granted BBC is a state owned company) but rather it's a business; owned by businessmen.
 

Corso

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TBH, Castro stopped being newsworthy decades ago though. He'd become a dottering old man largely ignored by the world.

classic reaction

He was one man who said FU to a super power and their population wet themselves - why? Because those who wanted to stay in control of said country got worried someone on home soil would do the same...
 

Corso

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In post #88 you highlighted my comment that the news media are multi national corporations rather than separate entities in separate countries and your reply was that that was my opinion.

I'm not drifting. Just saying that no, the media isn't a separate entity in each country (granted BBC is a state owned company) but rather it's a business; owned by businessmen.
run like maybe owned by no

its, like the nhs which isn't a good thing when profit = someone not dying (on a budget) but these days we are following the American model.