Restoring a Mangle

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treadlightly

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I hope you'll allow me a little digression, especially as it's on a subject close to your heart BR. All this talk of tin baths and coppers reminds me of the few days I spent in the Victorian Farm Cottage over New Year a few years back.
The outhouse had a copper and I lit a fire to heat water for my (tin) bath. The air temp in the outhouse was 2C, - made for an invigorating experience. My only regret was that there was no Ruth to give my back a scrub.
 

British Red

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Chuckle - the subject of Ruth (the thinking man's pin up) helping out with a tin bath would indeed be close to my heart - digress away (actually I love thread drift so anyone else wants to ramble about anything washing related - have at it) :)

I am currently cursing the name of whoever allowed Black Hammerite to penetrate softwood :tapedshut

I also managed to find my stud extractors - next to the centre punch tin (of course). Tempted fate talking to Toddy last night I think :(
 

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Step 4 Removing the Metal Fittings from the Woodwork

In order to complete the stripping of accumulated paint and grime, the metal fittings need to be removed.

Before I did that I moved the parts already removed to a box


Roller Springs boxed up by British Red, on Flickr

and labelled the box


Roller Spring box labelled by British Red, on Flickr

Then I photographed what goes where on the table top


Fitting left side of table top by British Red, on Flickr


Fittings right side of table top by British Red, on Flickr

Then I took a good look at the screws round head slotted screws full of accumulated gunk and a bit damaged from previous removals


Manky screw head by British Red, on Flickr

This gave me fear that the screw driver would slip in trying to remove them so I trod carefully

I chased all the paint, grease and grime out of the slot


Chase out slotted screw head by British Red, on Flickr

Then I used the correct sized screw driver and delivered a sharp tap to the screwdriver before attempting to move the screw. Clearly this shows why I stripped some paint first - it removes the paint "sticking" the screw down. If screw removal was problematic I would also apply a blow torch - both to burn off paint and expand the metal.


Hammer to tap screw by British Red, on Flickr

Happily these fittings came off with a little persuasion - I know the screwdriver may look long there - but its wide enough to "fill" the slot


Screws removed by British Red, on Flickr

The table top fittings were boxed separately


Table top fittings boxed by British Red, on Flickr

The fittings for the spring tensioning bolts also came free okay


Spring compression fittings by British Red, on Flickr

A third box was called into play


Spring compression fittings boxed by British Red, on Flickr

The roller shelf proved more troublesome - the right hand screw seen here is okay - the left hand slot is both shallow and damaged. I have clamped the shelf in a padded woodworking vice to give it some support


Roller shelf in padded vice by British Red, on Flickr

I cleaned up the slot as well as I could


Cleaning out slotted counter sunk screw by British Red, on Flickr

Gave the screw a really good tap - even heated it - no dice :(


Tap counter sunk screw by British Red, on Flickr

Out came the high speed steel drill bits


HSS Drill bits by British Red, on Flickr

Then I hunted up my centre punches


Centre punches by British Red, on Flickr

I centre punched the middle of the screw head I needed to remove and then drilled out the screw head. Centre punching anything metal stops the drill skidding off to one side


Centre punch screw by British Red, on Flickr

I used a finer centre punch on the stub


Screw stub by British Red, on Flickr

Matched an HSS bit to one of the screws I had removed and drilled out the stub


Measure drill bit by British Red, on Flickr


Stub drilled out by British Red, on Flickr

I did have a set of stub extractors on standby - thankfully they weren't needed


Stub extractor by British Red, on Flickr

Another box of bits


Roller shelf fittings boxed up by British Red, on Flickr

By this stage I was amassing a nice collection of carefully labelled boxes. I know its uptight the way I do this but I'm rubbish at remembering what goes where otherwise!


Fittings boxes by British Red, on Flickr

That was all the metal fittings removed - so on to the next stage!
 

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Step 5 - completing the strip down of the woodwork

So having removed all the metal work from the wood, we are left with this


Woodwork with fittings removed by British Red, on Flickr

A lot better - but still badly stained in places


Roller Spring Shelf with fittings removed by British Red, on Flickr

Each piece of wood was given a second thick coat of stripper


Second coat of paint stripper by British Red, on Flickr

After 20 minutes this could be seen working on the gunk where the metal fittings had been


Gunk from fittings by British Red, on Flickr

Scraping away the stripper revealed considerably more staining removed


Scraping off second coat of paint stripper by British Red, on Flickr

A putty knife is good for getting into the detail areas


Stripping detail areas by British Red, on Flickr

Getting off the top layer showed how that brown gloss paint had been only painted on the top of each shelf - but had dripped :evil:


Careless paint drips by British Red, on Flickr

This is as good as I could get it with paint stripper

Then I remembered I had missed a bit of wood :oops:


Mangle handle by British Red, on Flickr

So I removed that and stripped the paint


Mangle handle stripped by British Red, on Flickr

Then its on to the next step of refinishing - sanding off what the paint stripper left. I used an orbital sander that takes a third of a sheet of paper and a detailed sander. I used only coarse (40 grit) sandpaper at this stage. A breathing mask is a must or you cough this gunk up for days!


Sanders by British Red, on Flickr

This is the bottom of the table top after coarse sanding


Bottom of table top rough sanded by British Red, on Flickr

I took this photo of the top during the sanding process - I think it shows the effect of sanding quite well


Top of table being rough sanded by British Red, on Flickr

...and the completion of the table top


Top of table rough sanded by British Red, on Flickr

Having removed all of the gunk I can get at the wood and sort the woodworm out - three dousing coats of this stuff will sort it right out!


Woodworm killer by British Red, on Flickr


Woodworm killer being drenched on by British Red, on Flickr

The first coat is on - I'll do the rest over the next couple of days and give it a real chance to penetrate.

That's it for now!

Red
 

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Thank you Tengu & Steve - that's very kind (and I'm touched its worthy of a Drewism!)

There is a looong way to go yet - and plenty of time for me to stuff the job up :eek:

Sadly I am remarkably unskilled and don't have a craftsman's bone in my body
 

Zingmo

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This is a wonderful read. That last picture showing the contrasting colour of the wood while wet with the woodworm killer would have me thinking that yacht varnish would make a good finish.

Z
 

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Good choice - that's pretty much what I have decided - exterior grade gloss varnish in fact (gloss so any cloth sliding over it slips easily. exterior grade so that water doesn't penetrate).
 

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Not a huge amount of progress today as other chores had focus. I did get a second coat of woodworm killer on though - it is changing the wood colour (although not in a bad way). Pictures to follow when treatment is complete.

In a half hour at the end of the day, I also managed to get a little more disassembly done

You will recall I have already removed the top roller. The bottom roller is held in place by crescent brackets shown here


Bottom Roller Bracket by British Red, on Flickr

The nuts securing the coach bolts that hold these brackets in place are inconveniently situated behind the gears at the handle end


Bottom Roller Bracket Nut by British Red, on Flickr

Thankfully, with an extension bar on the socket set, I can just about reach them


Socket set with extension bar by British Red, on Flickr

The brackets came away easily. You may notice they are stamped "M20". I'm fairly convinced that M is for Mangle and 20 is a standardised part number used by the "Pioneer Iron Works" owned by the Whittaker brothers from Accrington who made this beast.


Bottom Roller Brackets by British Red, on Flickr

Both rollers and their attached cogs could now be lifted clear. Further disassembly of the rollers will be required later


Rollers Removed by British Red, on Flickr

Interestingly, tapping the non geared end of the axle revealed that the section of axle inside the roller is square meaning that the wood "bites" on the metal and turns with the axle. With a decent lathe and a long enough drill bit, re-manufacturing the wood should be a straightforward task.


Roller attached to wood via square section by British Red, on Flickr

The bottom roller sits in an axle support that just lifts clear of the mangle frame


Bottom Roller Axle Support by British Red, on Flickr


Bottom Roller Axle Support removed by British Red, on Flickr

Underneath the bottom roller is the drip tray


Drip Tray by British Red, on Flickr

This is held in place by two coach bolts - in an even more awkward position!

You can probably just see the nut with a spanner attached here


Coach Bolt Position for drip tray by British Red, on Flickr

Close up


Drip Tray coach bolt shown by spanner by British Red, on Flickr

It is doable with spanners - but would be impossible to reach with sockets

Note to self - get a set of imperial spanners as well!

The drip tray eventually came out though :)


Drip Tray by British Red, on Flickr

The mangle carcass now looks like this


Mangle Carcas by British Red, on Flickr

...and the pile of component boxes is growing :)


Parts Boxes by British Red, on Flickr

Red
 

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Not decided yet Steve, may just use paint stripper and a wire brush...

Think my mate has a grit blaster though.....its a good thought!
 

Eragon21

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Excellent thread BR and very interesting I am sure the finished product will be fantastic.
 
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Step 6 - Filling Woodworm Holes

The woodworm treatment is complete now, so its time to "make good" the woodwork. The woodworm treatment had raised the grain of the wood so first step was to rub back the wood to 120 grit


Sand to 120 by British Red, on Flickr

When you see the dust like that, you understand why you must wear respiratory protection

I selected antique pine coloured wood filler (given this is antique pine :))


Fill woodworm holes by British Red, on Flickr

A light smear was pushed over each hole and left to dry


Woodworm holes filled by British Red, on Flickr

The wood was then sanded back to 240 grit


Sanded back to 240 by British Red, on Flickr

The wood was then brushed off and wiped down with white spirit


Wipe down with white spirit by British Red, on Flickr

As you can see from the rag, despite a good brush, dust still adheres. The white spirit degreases well too.


Wood dust lifted by British Red, on Flickr

I have put a light coat of exterior grade varnish on the wood and left to dry overnight (sorry about the lighting - I was working under site lights :))


First coat of varnish by British Red, on Flickr
 

British Red

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Step 7 - Cleaning up small metal parts

Whilst the filler was drying on the woodwork, I had time to clean up some of the smaller metal parts that I had already removed

The first step was to use a degreaser to remove any grease and filth


Degreasing with gunk by British Red, on Flickr

The parts were then covered in strong paint stripper and left for 30 minutes


Paintstripper on spring brackets by British Red, on Flickr


Paintstripper on shelf brackets by British Red, on Flickr

Blistered paint was scraped off with a shaped paint scraper - these are great tools, the combination of straigh, convex, concave edges and points helps hug the contours of the parts


Shaped paint scraper by British Red, on Flickr

A variety of wire brushes also help to get into nooks and crannies


Wire brushing by British Red, on Flickr

When all the blistered paint was removed, the parts were washed in hot soapy water. I then fitted a wire wheel to my drill press


Wire wheel in pillar drill by British Red, on Flickr

This is great for removing all the stubborn green primer


Removing paint and rust by British Red, on Flickr


Paint removed from spring bracket by British Red, on Flickr

Having taken these parts back to bare metal, they were laid out on some cardboard


Bare metal parts laid out for spraying by British Red, on Flickr

...and given a first spray of black metal paint (and left to dry overnight)


First coat sprayed by British Red, on Flickr


Its now a question of spraying multiple coats of metal paint and painting on coats of varnish onto the woodwork before re-assembling the wooden parts - I can then proceed with stripping the next parts down.

Red
 

British Red

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Got to spend a little more time on this today, stripping apart the rollers and cleaning up the metal work


Bottom roller brackets by British Red, on Flickr


Mangle handle stripped by British Red, on Flickr


Top roller cog by British Red, on Flickr

This is the roller with the wood all masked with paper for spraying


Roller masked for spraying by British Red, on Flickr

...and masking tape on the handle woodwork


Mangle handle masked up by British Red, on Flickr

Again paint was holding parts together...so out with paint stripper


Paint stripper on mangle handle by British Red, on Flickr

Pull the cotter pin


Part stripped mangle handle by British Red, on Flickr


Retaining key on cog / handle by British Red, on Flickr

Slide off the mangle handle


Removed cotter pin by British Red, on Flickr

...being sure to catch the little "block" that locks the cog onto the handle...not sure of the proper word for that?


Mangle Wheel disassembly by British Red, on Flickr

More stripping and spraying next


Spraying parts by British Red, on Flickr
 
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