Thanks for the info folks its just what i wanted. It started of just wanting to get a few bits and bobs to do some of the lakes and lochs. But the forums renewed my interest in all things fishy (got put on hold a bit with a young family, but they are growing up so can come too). To the point i will be joining one of the local clubs that has the rights on my local lake and a nice river too. So thanks for that to, but i might have a few more questions.