Group Buy Pressure canners.

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Okay, I hope I'm okay in doing this as it's an enquiry.
Would there be much interest in a group buy of pressure canners from the 'States?
I'm looking at the Presto 23qt canner. Not the best available, but it's common, has a good user/spares base and is relatively inexpensive, also being aluminium (aluminum?) it's light, which is good for shipping.
Any takers? If I get a few, I'm willing to do the approach to Stateside providers.
 

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I just use a hi-dome Prestige pressure cooker.
Multi-use kind of kitchen gadget. Easily available, and so are any spares. British guarantee on the whole thing,

It takes three 500ml jars at a time. I live season by season, I can in season what I know we'll use. A ltr jar is too much of any one veg/fruit for us to use up at one time, so the 500ml ones suit best. I do use the 250ml ones too though. Better than having a fridge full of leftovers.

My pressure cooker is aluminium, but they do stainless steel ones too.
Unless you're living at the top of Yr Wyddfa or Ben Nevis we're not high enough here to need more pressure than the ordinary pressure cooker supplies. It boils up quickly, comes up to pressure quickly, and it cools down to safe opening quickly too once off the heat.

Honestly ? I don't think it's worth spending hundreds on a bigger one. Not unless you're a serious prepper with masses of safe dry storage space.

The ordinary pressure cooker is great for other things too. It'll reduce chicken carcasses to nutritious stock and jelly, it'll do the same for ham hough. It makes soup quickly without steaming up the kitchen to a Chinese laundry too.

Each to their own, I'm certain that folks like British Red have different experience with them than I have, but bigger is not always better, it's just different.

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I have numerous ordinary ones, stove top and electric but not the chutzpah to deviate from canning instructions!
 

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I have numerous ordinary ones, stove top and electric but not the chutzpah to deviate from canning instructions!

Try the one you have. Seriously, tell us what fruit or veg or meat you have and one of us will let you know how best to can it using just an ordinary pressure cooker.

Cleanliness matters, absolute sterility isn't necessary, the pressure and acidity of the food deals with it, but clean and tidily prepared matters. Boiling water cleans well, iimmc.
Decent jars and seals matter, and not everything needs to be pressure canned. Hot water bath canning works very well for many things.

Put it this way, I have heard American 'canners' rant and rave about how toxic our traditional jam making is. I jest you not, one lady claimed that forty people had died in the uk in a year with botulism from jam.
Total and utter rubbish.
No one in the UK died from botulism from such a thing.
62 cases in total between 1922 and 2005 of botulism in the UK, and apart from an incident with wild duck paste in 1922 most have actually been among drug users, not from food at all.
There are a lot of scare stories out there pushing the 'MUST / MUSTN'T do this', usually with links to some specialised cooker or book or seals, or their recipes/sites, etc.,

Jam making is canning, so is traditional European tomato (Red) sauce making....they don't even use specialised jars, they just use every glass bottle and jar they can find that has a decent fitting lid. Washed out, dried properly and re-used. Not pressure canned at all....and it lasts safely for years.

So, instead of looking at it as some dark art, maybe look on it as practical kitchen skills. If it worries you, just can what you'll use in say the next month. See how it goes.
It becomes kind of addictive (ahem, British Red :).....excellent tutorials, but boy does he also have excellent storage space) and you'll find yourself doing everything from left over soup to stewed apples for crumble :)
It's handy, and there's always the makings for meals in the pantry with it. Tidily deals with gluts of food too if you grow your own.
 
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I do my own jams, sauces and pickles fairly regularly which I got comfortable enough with. The notion of canning meat in particular just gives me the fear for some reason.
 

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If you can do it in the 'big' pressure canner you can do it in the home pressure cooker.
Just follow the instructions. It only needs 10 to 15lbs pressure. That's just the same as the ordinary pressure cooker.

Each to their own. You don't 'need' the big one, costing hundreds of pounds, to do the job successfully.
Then again, I wouldn't can an entire lamb or half a deer, so my pressure cooker suits me fine. If you're doing major amounts, then the bigger one makes sense.
 
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Have a read at this lady's website about canning meat.
I think she is very practical :)

 
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Hi all, as a pressure canner of many decades, I would suggest that if you want a group buy of pressure canners (which is a great idea btw), I would talk to a UK pressure canner importer and then get all the warranty and legal protection that is implied by that


Rosie is great - I'm sure she would work a deal for bulk
 

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I'd love one, but I can't justify those prices. I can go to about £100 but I doubt that would be possible. Even with discount!
For now water bath canning is the best I can do. Shame.
 
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Hi all, as a pressure canner of many decades, I would suggest that if you want a group buy of pressure canners (which is a great idea btw), I would talk to a UK pressure canner importer and then get all the warranty and legal protection that is implied by that


Rosie is great - I'm sure she would work a deal for bulk

It would need to be a fairly sizable deal!
 

British Red

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It would need to be a fairly sizable deal!
Entirely your call, she's bulk importing anyway. I personally imported ours because we wanted All Americans. The customs and shipping etc. was quite steep. The Prestos are a cheaper model so I imagine the customs & import duty will be less :)
 

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I was hoping that with a group buy we'd be able to get the value of an individual Presto below the import duty threshold.
 

British Red

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I was hoping that with a group buy we'd be able to get the value of an individual Presto below the import duty threshold.
I'm no expert but clearly they would have to be shipped individually for that to happen (which bumps up the shipping cost). Don't forget that VAT will have to be factored in.

Hope you can make it work
 

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I'm interested in joining the group buy. I'll track this thread. Happy to invest in a stainless induction compatible version.

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ONE

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Sorry folks, I really should have followed upon this.

I got a 23qt Presto, new, off eBay. And no word of a lie people, it was in my street. Had a little bit of fun as the vendor and I got suspended accounts twice for "trying to negotiate and off-eBay transaction" while trying to arrange pickup/delivery but all sorted. I apologize sincerely for not explaining.
 

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