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Just wondering if it's a case of 'Don't stab me in the back,then pull the knife half way out and tell me you have done me a favour'Some more details. Will be interesting to see how reduced the new wild camping map is.
Dartmoor national park to pay landowners to allow wild camping
Right to camp in park without permission was lost last week after court challenge by wealthy landowner
Quite possibly. The map will be published soon so we can see how much land is left from before. It is at least a starting point.
If you look at the two maps only about 40% of what was available before is now. Most of the areas before were rough moorland or pasture - all that has changed is that less of the moor is now available. Many folk didn’t realise that wild camping was not allowed anywhere on Dartmoor - there was always a map and I closed land and some commons were not included.
Fly campers were dealt with and some area of the ‘map’ were excluded in 2020/21 because they were too accessible. Genuine back pack wild campers leave no trace and have huge amounts of respect for the moor and the folk that live and work there.
Some do, some are litter louts leaving human faeces out on the open along with food wrappers, empty gas canisters and more. I've even witnessed two of them deliberately disturbing a drift. Their excuse when told off was "well how were we to know what you were doing?"
Educate me - what’s a drift? (I suspect googling that would give me the wrong result)Some do, some are litter louts leaving human faeces out on the open along with food wrappers, empty gas canisters and more. I've even witnessed two of them deliberately disturbing a drift. Their excuse when told off was "well how were we to know what you were doing?"
An Autumn roundup of the ponies. All the ponies belong to someone and the commoners get together to round them up. They are put into a pound and their owners collect them and the new foals. They get health checked, the foals weaned, some are sold off the moor to manage numbers to sustainable levels etc. Its a huge effort and highly complex to herd large numbers of ponies over such an open area.
Sorry. Should have said the vast majority or most. Always exceptions to things. In the same way the majority or most landowners don’t deliberately obstruct public rights of way, or remove signage and put barb wire across entrances. The vast majority of landowners don’t pollute watercourses with effluent and pig slurry. The vast majority don’t burn Add Blue containers in large barrels and allow toxic fumes and forever chemicals to leach into the soil.Some do, some are litter louts leaving human faeces out on the open along with food wrappers, empty gas canisters and more. I've even witnessed two of them deliberately disturbing a drift. Their excuse when told off was "well how were we to know what you were doing?"
Yup there's good and bad in all groups. For me it all boils down to attitude. I genuinely believe that those who treat landowners with respect and courtesy will be amazed at what they get back. I've been given permission to fish, walk, photograph, forage, camp, shoot and drive in places where I've no legal "entitlement" to be. But we've righted backed sheep, brought ice creams to guys cutting cabbage, done free pest control, loaned chainsaws, provided purple spray, given a starter chicken flock to a farmers son and helped with fly strike. Most landowners I know, if given help or shown kindness and courtesy rather than entitlement & rudeness bend over backwards to repay in kind.
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