possibles bag/pouch

[wolf]

Am i right in saying that originallymountain men/trappers,used their possibles pouch as their way of carrying all the things they needed for their muskets,ie lead balls,tools,flints etc?And now it is only these days that its turned into a sort of survival pouch?

 

[Razorstrop]

Common sense says your right Wolf, it would make an ideal pouch for lead shot etc etc, however I have no doubt that before that it was used for tinder, small sharp bones and anything else that was needed to hand on the hoof..........after all the Sporran was around well before guns were.


Mr Strop

 

[Graham_S]

lead balls would have been kept in a seperate bullet bag, then there would have been a powder horn. the possibles pouch would have had spare flints, tinderbox, etc

 

[RovingArcher]

lead balls would have been kept in a seperate bullet bag, then there would have been a powder horn. the possibles pouch would have had spare flints, tinderbox, etc

Yep, that's my understanding as well.

The possibles bag would have contained what they needed to live in the bush.

Besides materials used and the advancement of technology, the make up of an Indians primitive kit -vs- a mtn. mans possibles bag -vs- a modern *survival* kit wouldn't be that far off from each other. Except of course the terminology.

No matter when you *live*, you are going to need certain skills and tools in order to continue your life. That in my book is called survival. Or, as my Great Grandpa was fond of saying, "Boy, you can't live on the land without a good fire and a sharp knife." Nuff said!

 

[wolf]

thought id start decorating my possibles pouch with a few things ive collected over the years.
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ive described whats on it in the gallery section.
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[nickg]

Have to differ here with most everybody. The possibles bag would have held everything BUT the gun makings. The bullets flints & tools anlong with the patch cloth and any made up rounds were all carried in a seperate hunting bag. The possibles pouch was as still is the final survival items when all else are lost:- tinder, flint & Steel, basic foodstuffs like parched corn, oats, barley etc, maybe seasonings, jerkey pemmican. Needle & sinew for repairs and so forth. Read any of the online accounts of Rogers Rangers, Jim Bridger, Lewis & Clarke etc. Having said all that there were NO rules about these things, you took what YOU thought you needed for the journey you planned to make, independance of thought was just about the only thing those blokes had in common with each other

Incidently razorstrop IMHO the sporran was only ever a purse. It developed from the medieval belt purse which had all but dissappeared by the time of Elizabeth I since breeches and waistcoats began to aquire pockets. But since the highland filibeg kilt never had pockets it survives as the only way to carry your fags around (actually i saw a bloke walking round london a few weeks ago wearind a camouflage DPM kilt with cargo pockets on each side - go figure){;-)>

 

[wolf]

Have to differ here with most everybody. The possibles bag would have held everything BUT the gun makings. The bullets flints & tools anlong with the patch cloth and any made up rounds were all carried in a seperate hunting bag. The possibles pouch was as still is the final survival items when all else are lost:- tinder, flint & Steel, basic foodstuffs like parched corn, oats, barley etc, maybe seasonings, jerkey pemmican. Needle & sinew for repairs and so forth. Read any of the online accounts of Rogers Rangers, Jim Bridger, Lewis & Clarke etc. Having said all that there were NO rules about these things, you took what YOU thought you needed for the journey you planned to make, independance of thought was just about the only thing those blokes had in common with each other

Incidently razorstrop IMHO the sporran was only ever a purse. It developed from the medieval belt purse which had all but dissappeared by the time of Elizabeth I since breeches and waistcoats began to aquire pockets. But since the highland filibeg kilt never had pockets it survives as the only way to carry your fags around (actually i saw a bloke walking round london a few weeks ago wearind a camouflage DPM kilt with cargo pockets on each side - go figure){;-)>

thanks for info... can you tell me where you can find the onine accounts you mention?cheers.

 

[TheViking]

www.geocities.com/anderswilderness/Possibles.html

 

[RovingArcher]

thought id start decorating my possibles pouch with a few things ive collected over the years.
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ive described whats on it in the gallery section.
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I like your bag. I hesitate putting anything on my bag that dangles, which is why I havn't modified since it was gifted to me. The reason being, I'm likely to follow deer and hog trails and the underbrush would seriously shorten the life of any dangleys. Especially feathers, or I'd have a nice Redtailed Hawk feather attached. I do however have one stuffed in my cap.

 

[wolf]

hi there,i also think the same as you,but to me if you lose whats gifted to you then maybe its time with you is done,perhaps another may find it on the trail.

 

[wolf]

I like your bag. I hesitate putting anything on my bag that dangles, which is why I havn't modified since it was gifted to me. The reason being, I'm likely to follow deer and hog trails and the underbrush would seriously shorten the life of any dangleys. Especially feathers, or I'd have a nice Redtailed Hawk feather attached. I do however have one stuffed in my cap.

may i ask what you keep in yours,i keep mostly tinder,firelighting equipment.

 

[monkey_pork]

hi there,i also think the same as you,but to me if you lose whats gifted to you then maybe its time with you is done,perhaps another may find it on the trail.

This is a great thought to have too.
Some things you lose along the way, it's true.

 

[RovingArcher]

hi there,i also think the same as you,but to me if you lose whats gifted to you then maybe its time with you is done,perhaps another may find it on the trail.

Very true. Thanks for the reminder!

 

[RovingArcher]

may i ask what you keep in yours,i keep mostly tinder,firelighting equipment.

I don't mind a bit sharing my kit.

FAK w/inhaler that I need from time to time.
water treatment and 1 gallon freezer grade ziploc bag.
Mora 2000
Package of hikers TP
1-55gallon HD industrial drum liner w/ranger band
small amount of duct tape wrapped onto my
AA maglite
tablet and pencil
100' 4ply uncoated jute twine
4 tinder nests and ferro rod.
Altoids tin of assorted hooks, flies, line, shot weight and a couple of swivels, as well as two sewing needles.
25' of 7 strand, 550# parachute shroud line.

 

[wolf]

I don't mind a bit sharing my kit.

FAK w/inhaler that I need from time to time.
water treatment and 1 gallon freezer grade ziploc bag.
Mora 2000
Package of hikers TP
1-55gallon HD industrial drum liner w/ranger band
small amount of duct tape wrapped onto my
AA maglite
tablet and pencil
100' 4ply uncoated jute twine
4 tinder nests and ferro rod.
Altoids tin of assorted hooks, flies, line, shot weight and a couple of swivels, as well as two sewing needles.
25' of 7 strand, 550# parachute shroud line.

cheers.

 

[RovingArcher]

I don't mind a bit sharing my kit.

FAK w/inhaler that I need from time to time.
water treatment and 1 gallon freezer grade ziploc bag.
Mora 2000
Package of hikers TP
1-55gallon HD industrial drum liner w/ranger band
small amount of duct tape wrapped onto my
AA maglite
tablet and pencil
100' 4ply uncoated jute twine
4 tinder nests and ferro rod.
Altoids tin of assorted hooks, flies, line, shot weight and a couple of swivels, as well as two sewing needles.
25' of 7 strand, 550# parachute shroud line.

I left out a few components. I carry a few quart/liter sized ziploc bags for foraging, a wand of White Sage and a leather pouch of Tobacco.

 

[Longstrider]

I always assumed that the Possibles pouch was a carrier of the items a man would need to cover his needs if all else failed. To cover all possible eventualities basically.
The real beauty of the things is that they are on your belt, not slung over a shoulder or held by hand. You don't put them down and lose them, you cannot really drop them accidentally. The possibles bag is there after an unexpected swim or a fall down a hillside. You could soon lose a bag if you rolled a canoe or fell in a stream, even items from your pockets might well be lost, but a well secured possibles bag held all you needed to survive in the short term even if you had lost all your other kit.

 

[wolf]

I left out a few components. I carry a few quart/liter sized ziploc bags for foraging, a wand of White Sage and a leather pouch of Tobacco.

any pics possible of the possible? i presume the sage/tobacco are your sacred herbs?
i like to see craft stuff.

 

[RovingArcher]

Actually, the bag was a gift from a friend and was made by a Russian boar hunter when he was a young man in his homeland. He also hunted with a bow, so my friend thought it a good gift for me. I only have one photo showing the whole bag.

 

[wolf]

Actually, the bag was a gift from a friend and was made by a Russian boar hunter when he was a young man in his homeland. He also hunted with a bow, so my friend thought it a good gift for me. I only have one photo showing the whole bag.

that looks a fair size bag?do you carry that on your belt?