The perfect offer I got from "tipik".
Handmade in France. Silnylon or Nylon PU or breathing material.
Silnylon glues to the body. That poncho is a light tarp to dry it on the man.
Nylon PU doesn't glue but doesn't last so long and is most times heavier. That is a Poncho which can be used as a tarp.
Breathing material can be used perfectly as bivi bag. That is the best, but not the lightest option.
All this ponchos do not still exist.
Tipik would make them for me in my dimensions. Or for you, if you want.
The gui is able to read, speak and write in French and English.
The point is unfortunately, that this poncho would cost round about 200 €.
So we can order the perfect poncho for 200 € in our exact size and choose the colour and material and size and equipment.
Old relatively heavy original NATO ponchos have a hole for the head where you can enter with the hood of a military parka. You can wear helmet or thick winter cap under it.
Their dimensions usually had been 210 x 165 cm. The Dutch is about 220 x 165 cm. I think it is the largest.
The weight of original Nato ponchos usually is between round about 700 g and 1000g.
Yes, the original US Poncho Camouflage was the best. The old oliv US Poncho was the heaviest.
The Dutch was like the US Camo Poncho, the other best. :0)
Austrian and German you get in very good conditions. But they aren't sexy.
The quality seen over years is better than Dutch and US Camo.
Austrian and German Ponchos do not die in normal civil use over 30 Years.
Opex produces a lightweight poncho which doesn't blend in northern nature. The french CCE has large bright stripes. That pattern is made for clothing, not for tents.
The Opex poncho isn't given to french soldiers, but allowed to use in several circumstances.
Opex has shops on french military ground.
The hole for the head is well done. The buttons are attached wrong and with 210x150cm it is to small as a bivvy bag, the holes for the lines do not fit for poles.
two points are missing for the A-frame. But this poncho isn't bad. Perhaps 400g I guess. I have it with me, but unfortunately here no balance.
The Opex is an interesting option for use in southern France. That's why I have one.
It isn't original given military equipment but used in the French army.
The Bundeswehr has a relatively heavy original GORETEXPONCHO in Fleckrarn. (80 € new) 210x150 cm. To small as a good bivvy bag.
165cm : 2 = 80,25cm, that is needed for a bivvy and was normal before!
(Snugpack Djungle Bag fits in the Dutch poncho perfectly)
But now we do not find any new ponchos, that have more than 150cm.
ALL NEW PONCHOS ON THE MARKET I KNOW HAVE ONLY 150 cm OR LESS.
THAT IS TO TIGHT AS A BIVVY BAG!
AND THAT DOESN'T GIVE ENOUGH PROTECTION FOR THE ARMS, WHEN USED ON THE WALK!!!!
THE ONLY EXCEPTION ON THE MARKET FOR LIGHT WEIGHT PONCHOS IS THE DEFCON 5 RAIN PONCHO. THIS IS THE ORIGINAL PONCHO OF THE ITALIAN ARMY.
Camouflage Vegetato Italiano, Nato Stock Number. A real military Poncho. 40 € new.
In my opinion expensive enough to get spark holes in it.
It is 200x 165cm. Large enough as a bivvy. But a bit to short as a shelter without bivvy bag. 40 € new.
I do not own this Poncho. May be there is a surprise. But the size fits. And the quality seems to be ok.
165cm are optimal for a person who is between 165 and 170 tall.
If you are 185 like me it works with 165, better would be 180 or something like that.
Ponchos with less than 150cm are useless in cold conditions! They are nice to have for summer hikes, where we do not have to protect the arms.
Most civil ponchos are to small. The holes for the head do not work with a hood of a parka.
MFH or miltec didn't survive very long my care full use. To tight, not really water proof. I recommend to forget them. To tight holes for the head. They loose the tapes who tighten them. Fabric may be not really water proof. I get whet in them after 6 month of use.
Decathlon Solognac(15€) is to small. I bought it and will test it. But that is a summer poncho without any attachments for tarp lines. that may be good and cheap as ground sheet for Tarps if you go with a couple.
Expeed bivvy poncho UL seemes me better than Expeed bivvy poncho.
But for this heavy price I do not buy a poncho which is nicely long, but not wide enough, Sorry! 150 cm isn't wide enough for a person who us taller than 165 cm.
The same problems with all the other civil ponchos! Most times only 145 wide!
That's for children! May be an offer for the boy scouts!
I recommend original Nato ponchos.
20€ (used) or the Austrian or German are fine, I guess French and British are equal.
Who can get an original US Army or Dutch Army Camouflage Poncho in good conditions should buy it. That's the best deal I think.
Who wants it light should buy a DEFCON 5 Vegetato Italiano Camouflage Poncho. 40€. 400g.
That's half the weight from the other Nato Ponchos!
Who doesn't care about money should call "tipik" and buy a french haute couture poncho.
That is the only offer I know, to get a really fitting poncho for a tall person.
180x 240cm I would order there.
That would be for me a poncho which protects perfectly on the walk, perfectly unter it used as tarp. That would be a perfect bivvy bag too, if made from breathing fabric.
But with Snugpack Special Forces Sleeping and Bivvy Bag the Defcon 5 is a very light and good option too.
Sleeping Bag SF1 -- 1000g
Bivvy Bag SF -- 340g
Ortlieb dry sack 7Litres
ultra light around 60g (?)
Defcon 5 Poncho 400g
That's light. That's tough. That's Quality.
That's European production with Nato stock numbers.
Made in Switzerland, Italy, Germany, Britain. And not over priced,that all!
I prefere equipment like that.
