Petition,Armed forces/wounded

lostplanet

Full Member
Aug 18, 2005
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It absolutely :censored: disgusts me that we have to sign a petition to get the idiots in charge to do something that should automatically be in place anyway.

Sick to death of the bumbling fools that call themselves 'government' in this country.

Signed and passed to everyone I know.

:banghead:
 

philaw

Settler
Nov 27, 2004
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Hull, East Yorkshire, UK.
The reason I heard the government give for closing the hospitals was that it's easier to give quality care in general hospitals. Specifically because soldiers can get almost every kind of injury, they need to be near specialist units of every description. A single military hospital to deal with all of that would need to be huge. What would they do with it during peace time, assuming there is ever a time when we are not fighting somebody? Would we keep equipping it and staffing it? How would that work? After a decade without a war, would it be the best hospital for injured soldiers?

We're all used to government telling us that changes are not about saving money, but in this case that's not the only reason. Aren't there other, better solutions? Surely if we can find a way to allow soldiers to keep their dignity, support each other, and have privacy within the NHS, that's better. For example, if soldiers were grouped together in wards, they could support each other and staff that treat them would quickly become accustomed to dealing with their particular problems.
 

303Brit

Tenderfoot
Jan 23, 2007
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germany
At the moment i have no idea how these hospital would be staffed,financed ,run.

I know however from personel experience in the past the British Military Hospital are the best place to deal with military battle casualties,soldiers could support each other and their needs would be better understood there.
The hospital would also be a Veterans hospital (something which the USA have had for many years) and deal with long term problems,illnesses etc. that have occured during service.Even though we might have "peace",the wounded will be fighting the war for years to come.

I believe 2 Para sent back over 50 casualties from their tour,can you imagine your local NHS taking so many long term injured in a few months? It means civillians will have to wait longer for places at their local hospital.Wounded,sick service personell are meant to recieve so called priority treatment on the NHS.This is not being done.The NHS or goverment are not capable of getting a simple thing like that working,despite the conflicts being over 5 years ,as long as WW2.

The German Army,despite making drastic cutbacks have kept their military hospitals.The average german conscript that serves 8 months has better medical treatment than our professional soldiers fighting.Our army is one of the best in the world and i think our wounded deserve a lot, lot better.

What ever your feelings about the conflicts or our military i hope you will sign up,or at least pass on the information so others can decide for themselves. Thank you.
 

philaw

Settler
Nov 27, 2004
571
47
43
Hull, East Yorkshire, UK.
The NHS has a centralised hub in Birmingham where soldiers are brought from overseas, if the Guardian informed me correctly. I don't think local hospitals are the answer, but that's not what is in place now, is it? The USA needs veterans hospitals because otherwise veterans would have to pay cash for their rehabilitation. The needs of British soldiers coming back from overseas and German conscipts who don't see action are very different.

I don't think the argument for designated military hospitals being an improvement stands up to scrutiny, or that laymen like me understand medicine well enough to make that decision. I'd be interested to hear a medical opinion on it. Hopefully petitions like this keep miltary medical care under scrutiny and lead to soldiers getting genuine priority care, wherever that may be. It's hard to pan out the nuggets of truth from the phony righteous indignation of the press, but it seems clear that both taxpayers and soldiers want soldiers to get priority care, have support from fellow servicemen, and get proper rehabilitation, so that's what they should get.

Think about the state of army housing now, and then ask yourself if an army hospital would look the same if these wars ever end or when the press inevitably turn their attention elsewhere.
 

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