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Vegans are so inconsiderate, "Fruitarian" is the only way forward. If you eat a carrot the plant dies, but if you eat an apple the plant lives on.
...Now, where did I put that bacon sandwich?
...Now, where did I put that bacon sandwich?
I've always wondered if these products of the "socialist state" understand that the logical extension of their beliefs is the extinction of most species of animals in the UK?
If it wasn't for anglers, rivers wouldn't be cleaned up and monitored, if it wasn't for pheasant shoots, huge tracts of English woodland would be clear felled for arable farming, grouse moors would be turned over to more productive products etc. In many marginal areas (Highlands, Welsh Mountains, Dartmoor etc.), all food production would cease as, whilst suitable for rough grazing, the land is completely unsuitable for growing grain and veg.
Mind you logic never entered into their thoughts much - its all fluffy wuffy bunnykins thinking.
Stuff em Ruvio - pathetic shrinking little cowards who skulk about in the night making veiled insults remotely. Not worth the effort to tell them how pathetic they, and their arguments, are.
Red
If it wasn't for anglers, rivers wouldn't be cleaned up and monitored, if it wasn't for pheasant shoots, huge tracts of English woodland would be clear felled for arable farming, grouse moors would be turned over to more productive products etc. In many marginal areas (Highlands, Welsh Mountains, Dartmoor etc.), all food production would cease as, whilst suitable for rough grazing, the land is completely unsuitable for growing grain and veg.
Mind you logic never entered into their thoughts much - its all fluffy wuffy bunnykins thinking.
Stuff em Ruvio - pathetic shrinking little cowards who skulk about in the night making veiled insults remotely. Not worth the effort to tell them how pathetic they, and their arguments, are.
Red
You make an excellent point red.
I'm considering just sending them a picture of my remarkably huge penis...with a rod next to it.
I'm considering just sending them a picture of my remarkably huge penis...with a rod next to it.
I used to get a lot of stick from the PETA types when I worked for the British Heart Foundation (because they sponsor animal testing of heart treatment).
When one of them told me off to my face for working for an organization that did such evil deeds I'd tell them that if they hadn't have done animal testing then my son wouldn't be alive today. That usually shut them up. I also liked to ask them how vets get their surgical training.
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When one of them told me off to my face for working for an organization that did such evil deeds I'd tell them that if they hadn't have done animal testing then my son wouldn't be alive today. That usually shut them up. I also liked to ask them how vets get their surgical training.
Let's go
Same here Rebel.
I come from a family with a bad history of diabetes.
my great Uncle died from it.
My mother went down with type one when a child. Back then insulin had never been used on children.
SHE was the lab rat.
NONE of her contemporaries lived past 25...but she lived until she was 54.
I come from a family with a bad history of diabetes.
my great Uncle died from it.
My mother went down with type one when a child. Back then insulin had never been used on children.
SHE was the lab rat.
NONE of her contemporaries lived past 25...but she lived until she was 54.
I thought the test was kind of funny actually, well chuffed over me result.
And how come you've all taken to insult vegans? What has that to do with peta and their test? I think it would be stupid to think that all vegans are alike and reason the same way. Just as hunters, bushcraftsmen, christians, the elderly and other groups aren't all alike. Vegans can be vegans from a number of reasons.
And even if I don't live in the UK, I can fully understand BRs reasoning, couldn't the same persons or resources that is working for natural conservation (or rather, cultivated natural conservation) be doing that without killing animals? Nature reserves and all that..
From our little box of perspectives we'd like to think of them as illogical, but come on, to say that the don't have any logic in their thoughts sounds like an angry teenager. We should be better than that, shouldn't we? It's a bit weird to say how the think and what they want and then calling them names. That's just low.
And how come you've all taken to insult vegans? What has that to do with peta and their test? I think it would be stupid to think that all vegans are alike and reason the same way. Just as hunters, bushcraftsmen, christians, the elderly and other groups aren't all alike. Vegans can be vegans from a number of reasons.
And even if I don't live in the UK, I can fully understand BRs reasoning, couldn't the same persons or resources that is working for natural conservation (or rather, cultivated natural conservation) be doing that without killing animals? Nature reserves and all that..
From our little box of perspectives we'd like to think of them as illogical, but come on, to say that the don't have any logic in their thoughts sounds like an angry teenager. We should be better than that, shouldn't we? It's a bit weird to say how the think and what they want and then calling them names. That's just low.
If they are receiving any sort of benefits, and a percentage of them do, then they probably are, it's one of the reasons they have dogs. The same way an alcoholic gets given more money to help fund their addiction as it's an illness not a choice apparently. It's frightening what can be claimed if you know how to play the system.
Nope. The guys who shoot pheasants pay £1,500 for a days entertainment. They don't even enter the woodland (although the beaters do briefly). 10 guys, for six hours, pay £,15,000. 20 shoots a year. Over a quarter of a million pounds. But that maintains a square mile of woodland (c. 600 acres).
Do you reckon any bushcrafter or nature lover would pay £1,500 for a six hour woodland jaunt? Its the seclusion and undisturbed nature of these woods that makes them havens for wildlife. I have been priveleged to live on such a shoot for the last seven years. I have deer, hare, stoats, kites, buzzards, sparrowhawks, tawny owls, barn owls, short eared owls, foxes, nightjars, weasels, small blue butterflies, dragonflies, damsel flies, stag beetles, rabbits, Gretaer Spotted and green woodpeckers and goodness knows what else visit my garden each year.
The rich sportsman pay for some of the last undisturbed habitat on this island. What they shoot are game birds bred for the purpose that have a far better life than even free range farmed poultry. If they don't pay, the landowner will clear fell for timber and plough the land. Who else is going to pay him that sort of money? Land needs maintenance, and maintenance needs funds. If the answer is "the taxpayer" then how many dialysis machines is a fair swap?
The creatures are bred for the purpose, lead a far more natural life than any farm animal, are humanely killed and then eaten. Where on earth is the harm in that?
Red
Well said BR. The sacrifice of a few stupid and abundant pheasants for the saving of all that habitat that makes a lot of sense. £250k keeps five folk in a job.
In terms of food it's probably not the most productive use of the land (I know I keep banging on about that).
It'd be good if they managed the woodland for nuts and berries too.
In terms of food it's probably not the most productive use of the land (I know I keep banging on about that).
It'd be good if they managed the woodland for nuts and berries too.
I knew I was doing something wrong. I could have listed my dog as a dependant when I signed on...
No way!? Now I definately know I was doing something wrong...
True. It may also help with the symathy vote and if like my dog; catches rabbits.
He may be afraid of chickens, newspapers, the washing machine and push chairs but he brings back rabbits...
They do....including putting in 400 new walnut trees last year and 2,000 hazels.
No-one but me gets the sloes, blackberries, damsons etc though.
Shame huh?
Leaving in a month forever though and pursuing my own dreams rather than the rat race!
Red