Well looked at the Penrith shop and got a velez adventure light. A bit short but the sleeve design fitted me better than the standard Velez and velez jacket. Standard and jacket was short sleeves or tight around the shoulder on the back. The light version has different shoulder design which isn't noticeable until someone awkward like me tries then on one after the other. The shop keeper identified the reason. Basecamp in Penrith I can totally recommend if you like Paramo and fjellraven.
Unfortunately I couldn't try on the enduro and evolution Velez. They're a different fit again. The guy reckons the enduro is between the Velez jacket and the Velez standard in fit. The evolution similar IIRC. None in stock and Paramo had none neither i think he said. Still the Velez adventure light felt a decent fit for me so I got the bright orange one!! Not my sort of colour but that or grey I thought orange is better.
One thing I can say about Paramo and that is their models all fit differently. Very, very differently n IMHO. You really need to try them all on before buying. That surprised me. It's subtle differences that makes a big difference in fit.
Hi Paul
Have been reading all the Paramo bumf, quite interesting, l live in North Wales so get a lot of the weather needed for gear testing, have finished all the Munros up in Scotland and have done a lot of the Lakes and some Alps
I tried Paramo many years ago when they were very low key, got rid of most of it quite quickly ( seemed old fashioned) then moved on to Gortex EVent and tried Buffalo!!
However got a second hand Velez on EBAY and gave it a good wash and proof and really liked it, took a bit of getting used to, your right of course with the sizing never quite right, however l now have the new Puffin colour velez which is a totally different coat with zip front two pockets/ vent, tighter fit, pricey !!
I also have the velez adventure light, great bit of kit, things to watch for though, the material will tear very easily, if you wear hot like me you need to wash every few weeks and proof 2/3 times a year (if you use it a lot)
The Velez light not quite warm enough for Scotland in Winter unless you really have substantial base layer jmpv
I have Paramo trousers as well but these don't work as well, l find they tend, when really wet to let in water especially when your bending the knee a lot so am reverting to my paclite overtrousers.
Paramo generally tend to be on the short side and I'd like a couple more inches below the bum