Other way around wayland, what ever gave you the numb lips and fingers gave you a flashback dream. Sleep apnea maybe, I should see a doctor.
There’s a first time for everything. In past posts I’ve argued against socialized medicine. HOWEVER! You have it at you fingertips and it’s there for precisely for you to use. If your doctor can do nothing more than just give you an exam and reassure you there’s nothing wrong, then his time was well spent. If instead he finds something then early treatment can prevent him having to spend more time and elaborate treatment later. Never be rluctant to avail yourself of a doctor; let him do his job.Never had the problem before or since.
My Doctor has probably got better things to do.
I think you missed part of my points:The National Health Service over here is under severe stress, years of underinvestment and cuts have pushed it to breaking point. I'm not going to add to that problem.
This.Well you probably where inhailing lots of co2 then. I have woke up in a panic in a bivvy before with it covering my face, I believe people have actually suffocated in them!
I didn't know that Ed. You have my understanding and sympathy, It's a very scary position to find yourself in.I got stuck in a cave in Somerset in the exact same way but my headtorch was an fx nova with a belt battery.
I haven’t been right since and have had the same sort of panic response a couple of times over the years.
I got stuck circa 10 years ago.
It’s like a weird hindbraind/sub-conscious reflex when conditions match with how you felt when stuck in the cave.
I have since given up caving, to be honest because I lost my bottle.
it was frightening, it took a hell of a lot of self control to not totally lose my sh'it. Once i was free, getting out felt a lot harder than going in, i was weak as a kitten. For a few weeks after I would wake up in the night in a cold sweat feeling like i was stuck again. I wouldnt recommend it to be honest!I didn't know that Ed. You have my understanding and sympathy, It's a very scary position to find yourself in.
I've had a few scapes over the years but that still rates as one of the most frightening for me.
dunno, but i am okay if my arms are free. constrained in a sleeping bag takes a bit of 'concentration' to not bother me.....I've had a few caving panics myself when I used to do it. The maggots crawl in dog cave nr ashburton nearly undid me for life! I've had the twisted sleeping bag panic with the drawstring closing off the face hole... horrific moment. Never since have I cinched up a bag. I don't like being zipped into small tents at all which is why I so prefer my tarp and hammock. ... and it's more comfortable anyway. I get panicky if a zip sticks on a jacket and I can't get it off. I start sweating and feel faint. It's horrible.
I've had several weird nighttime experiences where I swear someone sat on my bed though there was nobody there. I was asleep and it woke me up but I froze totaly. Isn't our subconscious a strange thing?