Oil ideas

[Lodian]

Hi there,
The other night me and a friend went camping on a beach, we dug a fox hole etc, then in the morning we found a keg of oil, we took it back and used it as fuel with our fire(a small pit one). To our suprise the oild burned really quickly , is there anyway to slow this? Maybe mixing it with something or maybe soaking thw wood with it?

Thanks

 

[Ogri the trog]

Lodian,
Lofty Wiseman has something to say on this in his Survival Manual. From memory, it is either mixed with earth or sand and burned in a pot or dripped onto a hot plate to burn in a regulated manner - though I think there was mention of the drips being alongside water drips to aid in fuel dispersal.

ATB

Ogri the trog

 

[Lodian]

Great thanks ill give it a try next week,

 

[Goose]

The dripping oil/water is a benghazi burner, drip the oil and water onto a metal(wiggly tin) plate that has been heated up first as the oil hits the plate it is heated up enough to reach flash point, the burning oil keeps the plate hot enough. The water boils and disperses the oil better as ogri says.
What type of "oil" is it, a burner like the one described would be dangerous(too dangerous) if it is petrol! If it will burn without behing heated first it isn't oil.
If it is oil you could try burning it with a wick.
I think the sand filled bucket is mixed with petrol rather than oil, and I would be really careful about burning petrol, lot safer to stick to driftwood!

 

[Greg]

Just remember when burning white or black oils, it is the vapour that is explosive not the fuel itself!!
Rough flash points are as follows:
Gasolines - instantaneous ignition
Kerosine - between 40 - 50 degrees Celcius
Diesels - between 60 - 80 degrees Celcius
Fuel oils (Thick black oils) betwwen 80 - 100+ degrees Celsius

Like I have said these are just rough guides, just take great care!

 

[British Red]

Can I suggest the following?

Forage along the high tide line for some wood

Take it back to your fire pit and grade it into sizes

Make a pile of the thin stuff around some tinder - this can be made by using a sharp knife through some very dry stuff found above the high water mark - its called a feather stick

Ignite the feather stick and put twigs and small stuff in a pyramid above it leaving pleny of air gaps

Gradually add larger materials making sure each layer is alight

When it reaches the size of keeping you warm, stop adding wood.

This technique is called a "fire".

One thing it lacks is pouring oil onto a beach which can very damaging to the wildlife in the area and damn dangerous as well if you don't know what you are doing. Its okay as a survival technique - its not good practice for a "fire in the morning"

Red

 

[John Fenna]

Oil burning HAS to be "survival" rather than "Bushcraft" - nasty poluting stuff oil, losts of nasty bad effects on the world. OK to keep you alive in the short term, not good as regular practice unless you have smoke scrubbers!
John

 

[wilts-bushcraft]

Oil burning HAS to be "survival" rather than "Bushcraft" - nasty poluting stuff oil, losts of nasty bad effects on the world. OK to keep you alive in the short term, not good as regular practice unless you have smoke scrubbers!
John

I UTTERLY AGREE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ARGGGGHHHHH
please do not burn oil again it is sooo ! not the way to go !!!!!!!!
you should take the next left on your lifes journey and join us here in the bushcraft family and leave behind the survivalist path as you will learn more and use less. not that survival is a totally bad as survival and bushcraft are cousins but is it nessary to dig a fox hole on a beach ? and so on and so forth
i,ll step down slowly from my soap box and nod politley !!!!

 

[Lodian]

Can I suggest the following?

Forage along the high tide line for some wood

Take it back to your fire pit and grade it into sizes

Make a pile of the thin stuff around some tinder - this can be made by using a sharp knife through some very dry stuff found above the high water mark - its called a feather stick

Ignite the feather stick and put twigs and small stuff in a pyramid above it leaving pleny of air gaps

Gradually add larger materials making sure each layer is alight

When it reaches the size of keeping you warm, stop adding wood.

This technique is called a "fire".

One thing it lacks is pouring oil onto a beach which can very damaging to the wildlife in the area and damn dangerous as well if you don't know what you are doing. Its okay as a survival technique - its not good practice for a "fire in the morning"

Red

Yes i know that no need for sarcasim, its crude oil.
And because we arrived a little to late due to work we had little light, so oil seemed like a good idea as it was easier to find a white crate. I only ever used it because we didnt
have a lot of time so british red no need.

Thanks to the others for there suggestions.

 

[Lodian]

I UTTERLY AGREE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ARGGGGHHHHH
please do not burn oil again it is sooo ! not the way to go !!!!!!!!
you should take the next left on your lifes journey and join us here in the bushcraft family and leave behind the survivalist path as you will learn more and use less. not that survival is a totally bad as survival and bushcraft are cousins but is it nessary to dig a fox hole on a beach ? and so on and so forth
i,ll step down slowly from my soap box and nod politley !!!!

The point of thge use of a fox hole is it could be done quickly by craig (* my mate) other wise we would have walked further along to a bunker, it was the first time we went camping on this each we norally go in the woods.

 

[gorilla]

Can I suggest the following?

Forage along the high tide line for some wood

Take it back to your fire pit and grade it into sizes

Make a pile of the thin stuff around some tinder - this can be made by using a sharp knife through some very dry stuff found above the high water mark - its called a feather stick

Ignite the feather stick and put twigs and small stuff in a pyramid above it leaving pleny of air gaps

Gradually add larger materials making sure each layer is alight

When it reaches the size of keeping you warm, stop adding wood.

This technique is called a "fire".

One thing it lacks is pouring oil onto a beach which can very damaging to the wildlife in the area and damn dangerous as well if you don't know what you are doing. Its okay as a survival technique - its not good practice for a "fire in the morning"

Red

i thought that was pretty funny in a :twak: sort of way

 

[Nagual]

Making Gnomies while on exersize was fun years ago, never had the spare oil or whatnot to do it now, don't think I would unless there was no other choice.