I admit I had thought of the high tech tape solution but not considered turning the point into the wind. That will probably make quite a difference by itself.
New Stove: First Impresions...
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Stew said:
One thing that did occur to me, the stand was originally designed to go with the Evernew 14cm Ti pot as an ultralight solution. So the 14cm Zebra billy would probably "fill out" the wind shield better. The stand will accomodate a variety of pots and I'm not sure this makes any difference, but the fuller fit of a 14cm pot might aid in it's "windproof" characteristics. Anyway, I dont have a 14cm billy, just the 12 cm one, so that's what I'll be using to test it.
All I've done so far is boil a couple of Litres of water on it in my kitchen (my lab
) but wafting bits of card around in front of it had little impact. Encouraging. 
leon-1 said:Martyn have you tried it with one of the homemade stoves yet
Not yet, but you can use it with a variety of stoves. Esbit tabs and so on. To be honest leon, I keep comming back to the trangias time and again. I think it's because I like to cook rather than boil.
The trangias are damned hard to beat for thier versatility (simmer ring), economy (screw on top) and robustness. :biggthump
However, if ultralight is your thing, then this stand + a homebrew burner + a Ti pot will see you good to go with the best of em.
maddave said:Or ask a nice man to design a template so you can make your own out of sheet ally
If anyone can do it Dave, you can.
But be warned, there are numerous bends and tabs which interlock. This is a pro piece of kit which has obviously been laser cut and stamped to quite fine tolerances. I can say with absolute confidence, there is no way in hell I could make one. You'll get an idea from this pic of one of the side walls...
It's made out of steel which is quite springy and returns to it's original shape if bent a little. I think this is important to the pieces fitting together, as the centre section clips into it to make the whole structure rigid. The tolerances are really quite impressively small.
Ha, just noticed Jack has actually put em up on his site. Take a look at the latest aditions to his shop....
http://woodlandorganics.com/shop/misc/index.htm
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http://woodlandorganics.com/shop/misc/index.htm
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Apologies for resurrecting this old thread, but I just had to say how impressed I am with the clikstand I've just got.
I ordered direct from the clikstand site and it arived 3 days later in a flat rate envelope (no duty etc). After reading about potential duty / charges, I didn't order the heatsheild, but I made my own from 0.5mm aluminium from B&Q (£6 bought enough to make at least four heatshields).
I've shamelessly copied Martyn , using a 12cm zebra billy and it works brilliantly, all packing away inside the billy when done. I can see this being my default cooker from now on - anyone want an unused Swedish Army trangia
edit: SA trangia has a new home
best
Matt
I ordered direct from the clikstand site and it arived 3 days later in a flat rate envelope (no duty etc). After reading about potential duty / charges, I didn't order the heatsheild, but I made my own from 0.5mm aluminium from B&Q (£6 bought enough to make at least four heatshields).
I've shamelessly copied Martyn
, using a 12cm zebra billy and it works brilliantly, all packing away inside the billy when done. I can see this being my default cooker from now on - anyone want an unused Swedish Army trangia edit: SA trangia has a new home
best
Matt
MattW said:Apologies for resurrecting this old thread, but I just had to say how impressed I am with the clikstand I've just got.
I ordered direct from the clikstand site and it arived 3 days later in a flat rate envelope (no duty etc). After reading about potential duty / charges, I didn't order the heatsheild, but I made my own from 0.5mm aluminium from B&Q (£6 bought enough to make at least four heatshields).
I've shamelessly copied Martyn
best
Matt
how much / what do you want for the Swedish Army Trangia?
Cheers....Stu
Actually, that setup is the "Clikstand" isn't it? Personally, I think it looks a lot like the 28 Mini, but just heavier and with a lot more pieces. I did a tiny bit of customization to my Mini Trangia and if I can find the digital camera, I think I'll take a pic or two and post it up here.
A while ago I actually looked into getting Martyn's Trangia setup but after some deliberation I decided against it thinking it was just too much stove for my individual needs. But then again, I'm a Crazy Canadian. So I looked at my Mini Trangia and realized that all it needed was a tightly fitting windscreen with some ventilation holes. Voila! It works much better now.
Anyway, Martyn..that's a beautiful looking setup and I'm sure it'll serve you well in the years to come. I'll see what I can do about posting pics of my setup. (It's not much though)
Cheers,
Adam
A while ago I actually looked into getting Martyn's Trangia setup but after some deliberation I decided against it thinking it was just too much stove for my individual needs. But then again, I'm a Crazy Canadian. So I looked at my Mini Trangia and realized that all it needed was a tightly fitting windscreen with some ventilation holes. Voila! It works much better now.
Anyway, Martyn..that's a beautiful looking setup and I'm sure it'll serve you well in the years to come. I'll see what I can do about posting pics of my setup. (It's not much though)
Cheers,
Adam
addyb said:
Hi Adam,
(Matt here, the one who revived a two year old thread!)
I'm sure that there are many setup's which work well with alcohol burners - the clikstand is just one of them. Personally however, I like the way that the clikstand mirrors the trangia's ventilation path and is just as 'all-weather' as the trangia, yet packs down into a 5" billy, windshield and all. The key for me (and the reason I decided on buying the clikstand) is that it lets me carry a great performing stove around with my favoured 'fire-top' billy can for those times when I can't use a fire (with zero extra pack volume and at a minimal weight penalty).
However, what's good for one person isn't necessarily so for another - the great thing about our hobby is that there are no 'rules' - everyone develops their own ideas based on their own needs
best
Matt
This is not bad for £7.99, put some tinfoil around it and your good to cook
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/0197803.htm
Its on a par with a mini Trangia, but a lot cheaper
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/0197803.htm
Its on a par with a mini Trangia, but a lot cheaper
Martyn,
Thanks for the thread. It had unexpected side effects for me. I've been looking for months for a US source for the Zebra billys to no avail. After seeing your setup, I fired up Google (for the thousandth time) and tried once again. Surprise!!!! A small shop along the Appalachian Trail has started stocking several sizes so I jumped in and ordered a 12cm pot. Cost was $19 USD or about 10 pounds or about 13 pounds with shipping. I'll try it out with a simple trangia setup before taking the plunge for the Cickstand "gadget"
Thanks for the thread. It had unexpected side effects for me. I've been looking for months for a US source for the Zebra billys to no avail. After seeing your setup, I fired up Google (for the thousandth time) and tried once again. Surprise!!!! A small shop along the Appalachian Trail has started stocking several sizes so I jumped in and ordered a 12cm pot. Cost was $19 USD or about 10 pounds or about 13 pounds with shipping. I'll try it out with a simple trangia setup before taking the plunge for the Cickstand "gadget"
Phew that was close!!!! :yikes:rik_uk3 said:This is not bad for £7.99, Its on a par with a mini Trangia, but a lot cheaper
I was just about to pop round to the local Argos tommorrow at 10AM just to buy one and I noticed its only available from "Extra" stores and the nearest one isn't open on Sundays... mind you I can see myself popping out from work Monday lunchtime
It will probably go nicely with the Higear 2 person cook set I bought in Wilkinsons over the winter for £6... now thats done it, the ARE open on Sundays and now I am going to have to go there just to see if they sell one
I am not addicted to small camp gadgets, I can stop anytime, just after I have bought this.
rik_uk3 said:This is not bad for £7.99, put some tinfoil around it and your good to cook
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/0197803.htm
Its on a par with a mini Trangia, but a lot cheaper
Got one of those, it doesnt fit inside a 12cm billy (the stand is about 14cm in dia) and it doesnt collapse. The burner is non-genuine. It doesnt weigh much, but it's actually quite (very) bulky for what it is. No contest IMO, but YMMV.
addyb said:
That exactly what it is. But you have to put the start of this thread into context. The original post was from Novermber 2004 and Scott (the owner of Clickstand), told me that this was the first one he'd exported to the UK. So at the time I made the first post in this thread, I knew few people here would've had hands on with them. It's all old news now, so it looks a bit odd. Also, this package differs from the full clickstand version, by the use of a 12cm zebra billy. Scott had designed the stand to be used with an Evernew 0.9L titanium pot. All the dimensions, the windshield etc was based around that. So the "information" aspect of this thread, was really about the clickstand, burner and windshield being dimensionally very compatable with a very popular (in the UK) billy - the 12cm zebra.
Also lot of folks here were (probably still are) using the swedish army mess kit, because they can use it with a trangia, or use it over a fire. An excellent bit of kit. The downside is that it's aluminium which isnt very pupular. The steel version is nicer, but weighs a ton (I have one). This combo of trangia and steel billy, is lighter and more compact than the aluminium swedish kit, but offers simmilar, or better versatility ...and it does it in stainless steel.
The mini is a great bit of kit (yep, you guessed it, I have one of those too
), lightweight, compact and efficient, though it lacks a decent windshield. I like the sturdiness of the pot, or rather the recess in the base that fits over the stand, which gives it it's stability. The pot is aluminium and of a quite small capacity though and you couldnt use it over a fire without modification. The stand could be used with a 12cm billy in a similar way to the clickstand, but not with such good windproof qualities. You would certainly need to fabricate a windshield. The clickstand does a very good job of replicating the full size windflow of the full size trangia, but it does it in a form that is as light and compact as the mini.
MattW said:
Exactly so. Cracking combo isnt it?
I still use mine exactly as I showed it here. Although I definitely would not describe myself as a bushcrafter in any sense. I'm a fairweather sissy camper, so it hasnt seen all that much use. I've had more use recently out of my Optimus 111c - blimmin brilliant stove, though that is stricktly a vehicle thing - way too heavy for a rucksack. But with regard to the clickstand/zebra combo, I havent found a better solution for combining over the fire billy and meths burner all in one kit. It's not for everyone, but It's still my favourite combo.
At the moment, I'm trying to find something that is compatible with a 10cm billy for a daypack - I find I have more need for that in truth. I like to spand the day out, more often than I spend the night out and the 12cm kit is just a teeny bit too serious for a stroll in the woods.
Zodiak said:I am not addicted to small camp gadgets, I can stop anytime, just after I have bought this.
take care Zodiac, my doctor tell me I'm beyond help. My other half cqan frequently be heard saying "not another stove?".
Zodiak said:I am not addicted to small camp gadgets, I can stop anytime, just after I have bought this.
Me neither, nor torches, nor knives, nor watches.....
Martyn said:take care Zodiac, my doctor tell me I'm beyond help. My other half can frequently be heard saying "not another stove?".
TOOOOO LATEEEE!!!!!
My Trangia is a combination of other people's cast off's and second hand bits from e-bay so it has all sorts of odds and ends, but up until now I only had one burner which had a ding at some point and it doesn't seal properly so the oppertunity to replace it with a sealable lid and a simmer ring for £6.99 was just too much to ignore.
Our Argos Extra is open today, but I had to drive past our local camping shop which has got far more competativly priced recently and there it was for £6.95. Job's a good 'un.
Compared to my tragia burner the Hi-gear one is slightly taller, a bit narrower and the threads are not interchangable but at this price you can't bitch.
The hi-gear flange is slightly narrower and I havn't tried it (my stove is on loan this weekend) but I reckon it will fit into a Trangia base, however the opposite is not true. I would have liked total interchangeability but hey as I said you can't bitch.
My only real complaint is the lid seal is clear plastic so I guess it is neoprene and I doubt that you will be able to get replacements, you MIGHT just get away with a trangia ring.
I tried to fix my broken one with a circle of wetsuit material but it wasn't a great sucess.
I wil be trying it in a minute and don't expect any problems except there are tiny fibres coming out the burner holes so these will need to be poked down first.
The good news is that it fits inside my Swiss Army Volcano Stove http://www.surplusandadventure.com/ishop/800/shopscr3079.html so I wil see how fast it boils water later on this evening
Z
