My little Norway Trip, the highs and woe's. Pic heavy

kard133

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Taken: Used or considered necessary (continued)

Swedish cold weather hat, pile lined, supplied by Endicotts, water proofed with Fabsil, worn once, but taken in case the wind picked up or it rained/snowed.
Pocket SAS survival guide​, taken for reference, not used.
Shemagh, worn as a scarf, used to carry snow for melting.
Snood, thinner hat, neck warmer, impromptu filter.
Candle Lantern, and several tealight candles, was going to be used to light and warm the tent.
Large black bin liner, not used, intended as pack liner or emergency vapour barrier.
Ice Grippers, not used, but might have proven useful.
Self heating hand warmer, used in my sleeping bag.
Battery Pack, taken to charge phone and MP3 Player, tried to use it but the cable failed.
MP3 Player, used on second day to fill the silence.

Taken, not used, would be left behind or alternative taken in future.

Tent
, Luxe Mini Peak II, next time more likely to take a Hammock +Tarp, given the terrain it would have been more useful.
Crocs, might have used if the snow wasn't there, as it was they were a waste of space and weight.
Tent pegs, no use if you cant reach the ground.
900g Down Sleeping bag, intended as a liner if I were to cold, not used as I slept clothed, and given how the snow was difficult to keep out of my kit would have most likely been wet before to long. If I were to take another bag it would have to be a Softie Merlin 3, to me the same thermal value, same weight, and synthetic.
Fallkniven S1, taken originally as my primary knife, opted to use Mora instead, did not really need two knives.
Carry on Bag, didn't take up to much space, but 400g could have been saved if I used the side pouches instead, Taken to carry most of the extra kit listed above.
Softie Trousers, not used, the long johns and tracksuit bottoms were more than sufficient.

Should have Taken, would have made the space/weight work some-way.
Snow Shovel, available at less than a kilo in weight, would have made things a little easier.
Snow Shoes, would have made walking a lot easier, more packable than skis, and I don't know how to ski :)
A Hammock, would have made sleeping and resting a whole lot easier.
Milbank Bag, with a decent fire setup, would have made melting snow a little more pleasant, if slower.


Food was mainly flapjacks, Peperamis , belvita honey nut choc biscuits, two dehydrated meals, two ready to eat bacon and bean rations, noodles and instant mash, and two chorizos, and some snickers, figured around 3000 calories a day, weight came in at 5.4 kilos
I might be tempted to go to Norway again in the future, but unlikely on my own, and I would definitely see what the previous weeks weather had been like, ask a local the conditions and be better prepared, also change Kit to keep the weight down and consider only the essentials.
The trip helped me realise that my life isn't so bad, that when pushed I can function, and there is always an exit strategy, maybe not the one you want or with the best outcome, but a change can be made. I still feel down, sometimes really depressed, but I am learning to cope with it, and am trying to make changes without fear.

In the words of John Carter, "I Still Live"
 
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Bumbler

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and I would definitely see what the previous weeks weather had been like, ask a local the conditions and be better prepared, also change Kit to keep the weight down and consider only the essentials.


Sounds like you learned the essentials.

As for weather:
South Norway: Assume and plan for snow on the ground from end of October to late April
North Norway: Assume and plan for snow from beginning of October to beginning of June.

The snow may evrything from hard, frozen load bearing that you can walk on top of in shoes, to a meter of wet slush that you sink to the waist in, and makes everything that comes in contact with it soaking wet, to fine dry powder that gets into every nook and cranny and then melts, and freezes. - and everything between.
 

alpha_centaur

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Great read, I enjoyed your honesty about the trip. One of these day's I'm going to have to head over there myself and experience it. It looks beautiful if a little cold. Thank you for sharing
 

Corfe

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I really appreciated this write-up , as I do a lot of solo trips myself. Honest and thoughtful. Thanks for posting it, without any gloss.
 

jacko1066

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Brilliant trip report mate!!
I really enjoyed it!!!

I too had low points on my Estonia trip but was so lucky to have great friends there so didn't last long!!

I have to say though I quite liked the water prep, yes it is a pain in the butt but to me it wasn't so bad.

Sounds like your next trip will be a complete success!! And even better if you share it with someone else!!

Cheers
Steve
 

brozier

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Great report and very honest :) for me the sign of a great explorer is having the courage to turn back

The issues you and bare thrills had collecting water made me think of Samuel Hearnes book "A Journey From Prince of Wales's Fort in Hudson's Bay to the Northern Ocean in the Years 1769, 1770, 1771, 1772".

The native people he was travelling with greatly prized steel implements. Knives and hatchets we all know but also they carried "Ice Chisels" I'm just wondering if this would be an answer. I would image a small crow-bar / pry-bar with the curved section removed and chisel point would be just the job for breaking through ice.

Cheers
Bryan
 

oslodunc

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Good read that. And i agree with the others, wise to head back when you did. If it´s not quite 100% it´s hard work.
I´ve spent quite a bit of time in both Nordmarka and Østmarka. It really is nice out there as long as you´re enjoying it.
 

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Thanks for all the comments guys, Bumbler, thanks for letting me know about the wolves, all the information I found before the trip said that they were much further east, just goes to show how research on an area can still be wrong, and I am probably crazy, as defined by statistical infrequency :). Andy BB, that was exactly what was going through my mind when I was on the track, I have seen cyclists hit people before, so I know not to underestimate the damage a human mass at speed can do to another one.

Anyway, the Kit List:

Taken: Used or considered necessary
Vulcan Pack
with extra pouch added with zippers from, Endicotts, this third pouch is where I kept my food.
Bag Cover, DIY job of light orange nylon, 200g, really made it protect straps from the baggage handlers, orange for visibility on the carousal.
Bivvi Bag, intended as a moisture barrier in the tent, became my primary shelter at night.
Bahco Laplander Saw, made mood gathering much easier.
Mora Bushcraft Orange, tough, highly visible, a joy to use.
Honey stove, I prefer a small contained fire, and this also works as a pot support, used frozen wood to support it on top of the snow.
Mess Tin, cheap non stick with locking handle, lightest cooking pot I own, could have done with one which had a lid.
Sleeping Mat, an army surplus 60cm wide one from Endicotts, a two tone Karrimat from sports direct, and a Prolite 3 short. I sleep cold, so the extra weight here was justified to me.
Compass, a Recta compass, didn't really need it as the sun was always visible but felt better for having it, and low tech will keep on working when your smartphone wont.
Map, printed out from the Norgskart website, I had intended to purchase one locally but forgot about it until I was at Sogsnvann.
Sleeping Bag, Carinthia defence four, warmest bag I own, but not the most comfortable, I am not used to the way it covers my head.
Camera, Panasonic Lumix TZ10, just works for me.
Tinder​, cotton wool and Maya Sticks were taken, my preferred fire starters, along with waxed cardboard, but there was plenty of Birch Bark and the Twine I found on day one, better to have it though as it is minimal weight.
Fire Starter, a ferrorod from Ray Mears and an Imco petrol lighter were taken, but only the ferrorod was used, again, better to have the lighter and not need it rather than otherwise.
Orange original Space Blankek, the thick woven one, this was my ground sheet, emergency shelter and emergency ground to air signal.
Poncho, Dutch army. lightweight, good coverage, intended if the weather turned inclement, an admin tarp or for privacy doing a number two. Not used this trip but would have taken it all the same.
Water Carry, One Nalgene oasis 1l Canteen in belt pouch, one 500ml Karrimor Tritan bottle in back (taken as a measuring device due to graduations on side) and a 1L Source Liquitainer (not used, but so light as not to worry about it) in my pocket.
GB Wildlife Hatchet, taken to chop through ice, split wood, used for both, also reassuring in the sleeping bag as an impromptu defensive measure (Blunt Object using the back, broken bone will stop faster than a cut or at least that's what I was taught)
Headtorch, Petzl Tikka, also took a Petzl E+Light as backup, along with several Dealextreme keyfob torches and some Glow sticks (red and green for signalling) and spare batteries.
Sharpening Kit, longstrider mini strop pre loaded with Smurf Poo, and a Spyderco Doublestuff, not used but may have been needed.
Tissues, pre packed ones, several of, for general wiping.
First Aid Kit​, plaster, bandages, antiseptic, Vaseline, Zinc Oxide Tape, scissors, thermal Mylar blanket, etc. Unused but foolish to be without one.
Nook E-Reader, Entertainment at night.
Cordage, Comms cord, Paracord, not used.
Sewing Kit, not used, but as with the FAK may have been needed.
Utensils, Ti Alpkit Spork, LMF Orange Spork, only Ti used.
Whistle
Pencil and Notepad
, unused, but useful.
Gloves, thermal liner gloves made by Marigold, £2 on the bay, very lightweight, S95 MVP lined gloves, and taken but not used were the German MVP lined Mitts from Endicotts, very warm, probably not needed.
Sunglasses, for the open areas the snow was blinding, these were made by Sunwise and had swappable lenses, figured if there was a freak blizzard the contrast enhancing lenses would be handy.
Montane Extreme Smock​, superb bit of kit, just wish there was better venting on the arms, say a zip from elbow to cuff.
British Army S2005 Windproof Smock, lots of pockets, fairly windproof, nice when sitting around near the fire.
Snugpak Sleeka, mainly used as a pillow, and when getting out the bag first thing.
Dutch Half Wool top, supplied by Endicotts, warm, soft, smell resistant and cheap alternative to other wool baselayers.
Marks and Spencers Wool mix Long Johns, no longer available as far as I am aware, soft brushed inner and ribbed surface, warm and comfy, smell resistant.
Tracksuit Bottoms, two layer polyester cheapies from sports direct, worn under cargo trousers as a wind proof layer to trap air, very effective, to effective really, when stationary they were great when moving my legs were to hot.
Outer Trousers, Mountain warehouse convertible trousers, reduced in a sale, teflon coated, poor stitching on the velcro pocket closers.
Leg Twists, one of the most useful but underrated pieces of equipment I know of, with my trousers tucked under these even when I went up to my hip in the snow, none got into my boots or trousers.
Socks, Army arctic and Bridgedale coolmax Liners, feet were dry, odour free and no blisters, two pairs of each were taken, only one worn.
Boot, British army Mountain Goretex lined, with wool insert, except for the moisture in the leather freezing overnight, kept my feet dry and warm.
Watch Cap

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i really enjoyed reading your story. i am reminded as to when i went to the north of sweden in a transit van about 4 years ago. the only survival gear i had was a russian hat and a ww2 sheepskin flying jacket. i went to see the northern lights if i could. there was about four foot of snow and it was minus 15. the van had sliding doors both sides so i had made a piece of wood to fit the door shape and cut a hole for a stack pipe for a woodburner, the chimney pipe bolted to the roof rack. it took 5 minutes to set up and to take down you removed the chimney and just slid the door shut. it was a genius idea and worked a treat .anyway I witnesed some wonderful aurora and then went to Finland. I wrote a book about my journey. I was away over a year and did 26 countries . I love foreign travels and I loved reading yours, thank you. d x
 
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Excellent thanks for the update
Super photos .
We used to be able to catch the ferry from Newcastle to bergam with the car years ago , it was brilliant.
 

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