Perhaps because most wise things have been said so many times before.So many people saying so little of original thought.
Perhaps because most wise things have been said so many times before.So many people saying so little of original thought.
Perhaps because most wise things have been said so many times before.
The idea that putting more effort into finding something out adds value or helps you remember it isn't universal. My 9yo finds something out through Google or Alexander and he remembers everything. It's simply amazing how much he can take in and remember.
BTW a parent of one of my sons friends from nursery years was a senior lecturer and co-PI on a long term project into the effects of technology on preschool kids focusing on reading , academic ability, memory etc. Basically so long as they read at least 15 minutes a day he said technology use was presenting no issues with reading improvement. He went into detail but I can't remember them all only that he was not concerned by tablet use. That's not what media present to parents. BTW the university he was at had a very good reputation for their research in child development.
No idea if the same is true for adults. But as someone who was once like my son and even now remembers a really eclectic range of information I see no difference in information from different media. It's whether you can trust the source that's the issue.
Sorry but that was in reply to someone who did say that taking more effort to find the information through the pre Internet tools of encyclopedias and libraries gave it more value and it stayed with you. Information has its own value irrespective of how it was found.I don't think I'm saying that by using tools to locate the right information we are somehow letting ourselves down.
But it strikes me as a little odd that if one has something like Spell check or Grammarly installed and one keeps on making the same error WITHOUT correcting or learning from it to then correct ones own natural spelling it has become somewhat of a necessary crutch.
You really have to note that whilst you're right about many kids it's by no way universal. I know enough who have left school with nothing and had no prospects other than unskilled jobs or benefits. Whether that's a generational lack of respect for education and its advantages or they see no future. Or there's no environment to learn in. Poverty can prevent kids getting education. I'm sure every state school teacher will know of kids who could do well at school but home life prevents it. It's a sad thing in this modern age. It's partly why politicians went on about laptops and WiFi for kids during the covid lockdown. There's top much about have and have not in education. But it's more than that. How can you develop a learning habit when your parents have no education and see no use in it so you have no support or even opposition to it? I know enough very intelligent people with no education to appreciate this.Ever since I was a kid I've been hearing the same old "The youth of today have it easy" and "The older generation had to be so much cleverer" stuff and even now I'm knocking on 50 it still sounds like the older folk just love to tell stories about how tough/clever they were.
I'm been pretty unconvinced about the veracity of these statements when the old knackers said it when I was a nipper and less so now that I've heard it again and again with little to no real decent evidence coming from my generation.
Personally the younger generation I see are pretty intelligent and
highly motivated to get into a career and not just accept a job in the local factory/pit like many of the older generation just fell into cos it was an easy start.
Furthermore I would argue that they are coming out of education with less tribal prejudices against minorities than the older generations still have waay past the point where they should have grown out of it.
I'm optimistic about the "Youth Of Today" and think theyre alright.
Other peoples mileage may vary and possibly their kids are total rivets who hang about with muppets? Maybe sometimes the kids don't have much encouragement from their elders? Dunno really but it does seem to be a story thats been ongoing since before baby Jebus was a gleam in the local water carriers eye and were it true humanity would have disappeared up it's own rear as soon as the wheel was invented and we had it easy rolling stuff about on carts.
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Had you made that clear in the OP, you would have had a different set of replies.Im not talking about kids/children myself, i'm talking about people doing Masters.
There were a lot of such kids who kept going to school through certainly most of the lockdowns with the kids of key workers. They only did the same as kids at home but using school facilities in the schools I know about. However they'd not get even that at home which is more of a long term problem than lockdown IMHO.A lot of the kids who needed support the most have missed out on a years education.
I doubt they will catch up, either.
And its both their parents and the authorities who are to blame
See my previous comment.. ## A comment I should not have made ##
Which part of these jobs was easy?and not just accept a job in the local factory/pit like many of the older generation just fell into cos it was an easy start.
Dunno if you spotted it but I never suggested the actual job was easy.Which part of these jobs was easy?
A lot of the kids who needed support the most have missed out on a years education.
I doubt they will catch up, either.
And its both their parents and the authorities who are to blame
Dunno if you spotted it but I never suggested the actual job was easy.
I said it was an "Easy start" which meant often getting the job despite being mostly unqualified and following on in your fathers footsteps cos thats what job everyone did in the town/village.
Many of the jobs will have been hard graft in poor conditions and the people doing them often hated the thought that their offspring might end up in the same trap so worked their backsides off to pay to send them to college/uni.
My now dead brother inlaws father worked down a pit so he could send his kids to college and have a chance at a better life.
That worked out ok cos my brother inlaw was a headmaster on a decent wage.
I'm also not entirely on board with the dismissal of people just cos they require a spellchecker of help with their grammar?
I'm a carpenter and have worked with quite a few people who I would say are immensely practical and intelligent but they're also dyslexic and have been dismissed by teachers as "Thick" and put into the divvy class.
Nowadays they'd be far more likely to get help but 40 years ago? Not so much.
My wife is currently doing her masters degree and I would say she's one of the most adaptable and intelligent people I know (yes, I know I'm lucky) but she's sure as hell not the best at spelling cos she has mild dyslexia.
Back to this thread though, I'm genuinely optimistic about "The Youth Of Today" and not really into bringing them down.
They've yet to start a war, ruin a planet or commit genocide. Thats on the older people so far.
I’m 52 & math dyslexic,(yes it’s a real thing)how ironic that the ones who taught us just cast us aside as thick/unlearned..so who were the unlearned ones?I said it was an "Easy start" which meant often getting the job despite being mostly unqualified and following on in your fathers footsteps cos thats what job everyone did in the town/village.
Many of the jobs will have been hard graft in poor conditions and the people doing them often hated the thought that their offspring might end up in the same trap so worked their backsides off to pay to send them to college/uni.
My now dead brother inlaws father worked down a pit so he could send his kids to college and have a chance at a better life.
That worked out ok cos my brother inlaw was a headmaster on a decent wage.
I'm also not entirely on board with the dismissal of people just cos they require a spellchecker of help with their grammar?
I'm a carpenter and have worked with quite a few people who I would say are immensely practical and intelligent but they're also dyslexic and have been dismissed by teachers as "Thick" and put into the divvy class.
Nowadays they'd be far more likely to get help but 40 years ago? Not so much.
My wife is currently doing her masters degree and I would say she's one of the most adaptable and intelligent people I know (yes, I know I'm lucky) but she's sure as hell not the best at spelling cos she has mild dyslexia.
Back to this thread though, I'm genuinely optimistic about "The Youth Of Today" and not really into bringing them down.
They've yet to start a war, ruin a planet or commit genocide. Thats on the older people so far.