Making an Elder whistle - TUTORIAL

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jon r

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In this Tutorial I used fresh Elder wood that was still green. It is best to use dry dead wood, otherwise the wood may shrink and cause the whistle to stop working. The construction of the whistle is exactly the same if you use dry wood which I recommend.

We are taking advantage of elder wood because it has a very soft pith which can be easily removed to create a hollow tube.
To help you with your tree identification I have taken these photos of some Elder so that you know what you are looking for. The picture on the left shows typical thinner branches and leaves whereas the picture on the right shows the thicker trunk of the tree. Elder usually grows only a few meters tall and tends to grow in poor quality soil.

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Cut a small branch that is already the correct width. You can see how thick this piece is in comparison to my fingers.
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It is important that the wood has a large pith in the centre because this will make plenty of room for the sound chamber, however you will want the layer of wood to be thick enough so that it is not fragile. A shoot of wood about 2 years old is usually good.
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Cut a section from your wood about a finger long.
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Scrape the bark off if you like.
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Push the pith out and scrape the inner walls with a small stick until totally free of pith.
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About 2cm in from the end you need to cut a notch in the whistle, a few cuts at 90 degrees and then some more at 45 degrees. The pictures explain it all...
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Now you need to make a small piece of wood to fit into the mouth end of the whistle. Carve a stick down to the correct diameter to fit the inside of the whistle. Test how well it fits by pushing it into the end of the whistle.
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To create the air passage carve a flat face on the side of the dowel.
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Cut the small piece of dowel to the correct length. (as long as from the mouth end of the whistle to the vertical cut of the notch)
The dowel should be a tight fit and will need no glue if it fits snugly.

Fit the dowel so that when you blow through the small gap the air runs level with the notch.
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Once you have fitted the dowel in the end you could carve the mouth end to a better shape if you like.
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You can see how the air passage is created by the flat side on the dowel.
At this point you can test the whistle to see if you get a sound. Put your finger over the other end to block it, then blow the whistle. You should get a nice clear sound.
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If you get sound you can block up the other end of the whistle with another piece of wood. Do the same as before but don't carve the side flat. No air should be able to pass through this end.
You get a higher pitched sound if you make the sound chamber smaller.
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Your whistle is complete. You could add a loop of cordage so that it can be put onto a key ring if you like...
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Nagual

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Jun 5, 2007
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Excellent as usual Jon. So much so I just went out into the garden and cut a piece of elder and tried it myself. After about 5 mins, I have a bit of wood that I can blow into.. :lmao: no whistle sound at all. Any tips on what to do not do to create a sound?


Cheers, Nag.
 

John Fenna

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Great tutorial!
I have made loads of these (almost as many as I have spoons!) over the years and have had lots of fun. I even have some double enders - a whistle at either end
If you use green Elder for the tube and seasoned wood for the plugs (either end) the tube shrinks onto the plug for a super join and I have rarely had one done this way lose its whistle with age and drying.
If you do not cut the plugs to length until you have "tuned" the whistle you can pull them out easily to reshape/replace them.
I have always known these whistles as "Elf Whistles".
Great fun for kids of all ages.....:You_Rock_
 

gregorach

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What I really want to know is if anyone knows how to make open-ended whistles... Like a pennywhistle - something you could play a tune on. I've tried, but never managed to get even the beginnings of a note.
 

Lucyc

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Brilliant - thanks a lot, I'm half way through mine now :p
I was having a look at your website - how are you only 18?!
 

John Fenna

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I know what you mean Lucyc!
With talent like this in one so young (and all those dodgy e-mails I get these days) I am realy feeling inadequate!:eek:
This lad is one who gives you hope for the younger generation after all!
 

match

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What I really want to know is if anyone knows how to make open-ended whistles... Like a pennywhistle - something you could play a tune on. I've tried, but never managed to get even the beginnings of a note.

Not quite the same but if you take a long piece instead of a plug for the end, and whittle it carefully, you can make a swanny whistle/slide whistle, which can produce some simple tunes with a bit of practice :)
 

gregorach

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No, that's not what I want to achieve at all. Bloody horrible things... ;)

I want to learn how to make proper, tuned, diatonic whistles. I've gone through about 5 different commercial whistles, and I'm yet to find one that's actually tuned right. They always seem to be flat on C (for D whistles). But nobody seems to have any idea how to get something to produce a note without closing the end...
 

jon r

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Im really pleasd you all find this tutorial beneficial, thats what its all about... And have lots of fun making them.

I made this the other day, its an open ended flute with 2 sound chambers inside. Thought you may like to see it. I works well...

There is a tutorial here for making it on paleo planet, there are 4 parts to the tutorial that are shown in different threads:

PART1: http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/topic/3315
PART2: http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/topic/3293
PART3: http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/topic/3314
PART 4: http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/topic/3311


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irishlostboy

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jon r, great little tutorial. will have to give this a go. your website is great by the way. just went and took a look. love it.
 

gregorach

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Sep 15, 2005
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Edinburgh
Im really pleasd you all find this tutorial beneficial, thats what its all about... And have lots of fun making them.

I made this the other day, its an open ended flute with 2 sound chambers inside. Thought you may like to see it. I works well...

There is a tutorial here for making it on paleo planet, there are 4 parts to the tutorial that are shown in different threads:

PART1: http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/topic/3315
PART2: http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/topic/3293
PART3: http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/topic/3314
PART 4: http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/topic/3311

Aha! That's more like the thing... Cheers Jon! :)
 

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