Sounds like they put the weight in lbs down as kgs.
Going to order one of these today from endicotts. Great reviews guys, cheers.
Going to order one of these today from endicotts. Great reviews guys, cheers.
Low Alpine Sting Review
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Thanks TeeDee, but the saracen is a bit big for what i want, the bloke at endys said its about 140 litres
Think i'll be getting the sting. Like the look of it and the molle system.
Thanks TeeDee, but the saracen is a bit big for what i want, the bloke at endys said its about 140 litres
Think i'll be getting the sting. Like the look of it and the molle system.
140 litres of tasty bergen goodness
140 litres of tasty bergen goodness
Yeah , doesn't look that big does it?
http://www.rvops.co.uk/lowe-alpine-saracen-120l-olive-1885.html
Yeah , doesn't look that big does it?
http://www.rvops.co.uk/lowe-alpine-saracen-120l-olive-1885.html
Nah, not that big honest guv
A bit of an update on the Sting review..
Since getting the Sting Ive been wondering About the MOLLE / PALS webbing panel on the back. So Ive been casting about for some suitable pouches to try out.. After looking at a lot I decided that most utility pouches were not for me and I didnt want to use ammo pouches. So I approached the guys at Squires manufacturing. They supply Webbing to the NZDF so know what they are talking about... We settled on a Pouch based on a South African Water bottle Pouch
I asked them to ditch the MOLLE loops on the outside of the pouch and to add in an extra drain hole on the base
Also I asked them to add in a sock and draw cord under the pouch lid.
The pouches have a layer of PVC on the back and front and under the lid which acts as a stiffener and also add in some waterproofing.
The pouch uses 3 MOLLE/ PALS loops to attach
Here is the result attached to the MOLLE / PALS panel on the back of the LA Sting
The pouches measure approx 270mm H by 120mm by 120mm I show it here with a 1 ltr Nalgene Bottle for comparison...
And a Jet boil and canister
They can also take a British Army Bivvy bag stuffed in there.
When attached to the Sting the result is rock solid after youve woven them on correctly. The beauty of MOLLE is of course its flexible so its takes 5 minutes to reconfigure the pouches.
Some of you might have read my review on my cheapo Chinese 3 day Assault pack
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51688
Well this is complete with MOLLE / PALS loops also and the Pouches fit right on as side pockets...
Squires can be found at the following link
http://www.squires.co.nz/
A good demo on MOLLE / PALS attachment has been produced by the RV OPS boys and can be found
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OjIqTwgjdk
Cheers
John
Since getting the Sting Ive been wondering About the MOLLE / PALS webbing panel on the back. So Ive been casting about for some suitable pouches to try out.. After looking at a lot I decided that most utility pouches were not for me and I didnt want to use ammo pouches. So I approached the guys at Squires manufacturing. They supply Webbing to the NZDF so know what they are talking about... We settled on a Pouch based on a South African Water bottle Pouch
I asked them to ditch the MOLLE loops on the outside of the pouch and to add in an extra drain hole on the base
Also I asked them to add in a sock and draw cord under the pouch lid.
The pouches have a layer of PVC on the back and front and under the lid which acts as a stiffener and also add in some waterproofing.
The pouch uses 3 MOLLE/ PALS loops to attach
Here is the result attached to the MOLLE / PALS panel on the back of the LA Sting
The pouches measure approx 270mm H by 120mm by 120mm I show it here with a 1 ltr Nalgene Bottle for comparison...
And a Jet boil and canister
They can also take a British Army Bivvy bag stuffed in there.
When attached to the Sting the result is rock solid after youve woven them on correctly. The beauty of MOLLE is of course its flexible so its takes 5 minutes to reconfigure the pouches.
Some of you might have read my review on my cheapo Chinese 3 day Assault pack
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51688
Well this is complete with MOLLE / PALS loops also and the Pouches fit right on as side pockets...
Squires can be found at the following link
http://www.squires.co.nz/
A good demo on MOLLE / PALS attachment has been produced by the RV OPS boys and can be found
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OjIqTwgjdk
Cheers
John
Nice addition John With 4 side pockets you're going to be able to cram alot of kit inside the Sting. This is one of the things i prefer over the Sting to the issue bergen. The front pocket on the bergen is big enough for a water bottle pouch and easily accessible on tabs from the guy behind, but you can't really add anything else to it.
With the sting you could stuff your main gear inside like dossbag, bivi bag, spare clothes etc and on the pouches your basha, noddy suit, rations, spare ammo, cooking gear etc.
Cheers for the link aswell
With the sting you could stuff your main gear inside like dossbag, bivi bag, spare clothes etc and on the pouches your basha, noddy suit, rations, spare ammo, cooking gear etc.
Cheers for the link aswell
Hi Nat,
My days of carrying 'spare ammo' have long gone. Unless you count 10 rounds of 6.5x55 when I'm off for a blat after a Pig or Deer.
What I have found with the Sting is the side pouches seem to stick out a bit and in close country get caught up on supplejack and wait a whiles.. Shifting the side pouches to the back hopefully will sort this out a bit... I'm just going to use them with light kit that I'll need to get hold of perhaps a bivvy bag or tarp / hammock etc... Adding loads of heavy stuff in there might affect the balance of the pack..
My days of carrying 'spare ammo' have long gone. Unless you count 10 rounds of 6.5x55 when I'm off for a blat after a Pig or Deer.
What I have found with the Sting is the side pouches seem to stick out a bit and in close country get caught up on supplejack and wait a whiles.. Shifting the side pouches to the back hopefully will sort this out a bit... I'm just going to use them with light kit that I'll need to get hold of perhaps a bivvy bag or tarp / hammock etc... Adding loads of heavy stuff in there might affect the balance of the pack..
Aye unfortunately my days of that aren't over yet (or fortunately ).
I tend to use my sting more for ex than camping/hiking but the principles are the same. Keep often used items in the pouches.
Can't find those pouches on the Squires website though, i shall have a dig at RVOP's.
Glad to see this thread growing, maybe we can convert everyone from the SF45
).I tend to use my sting more for ex than camping/hiking but the principles are the same. Keep often used items in the pouches.
Can't find those pouches on the Squires website though, i shall have a dig at RVOP's.
Glad to see this thread growing, maybe we can convert everyone from the SF45
Hi,
Squires are a good bunch but the sales of MOLLE pouches in NZ must be tiny... I just phoned and spoke to them... Someone like jay jays in Brecon could probably do the same if not better.... Especially now you have a few pictures to show them.....
Squires are a good bunch but the sales of MOLLE pouches in NZ must be tiny... I just phoned and spoke to them... Someone like jay jays in Brecon could probably do the same if not better.... Especially now you have a few pictures to show them.....
Excellent stuff John!
I reckon you can cramm in 3 of those pouches, as there are 3x3 rows of PALS / MOLLE left, see your pic below; or add a sleepingmat (vertical carry) in between?
I reckon you can cramm in 3 of those pouches, as there are 3x3 rows of PALS / MOLLE left, see your pic below; or add a sleepingmat (vertical carry) in between?
A few companies in the UK supply molle pouches.
I've got a couple from Flektarn and they work fine.
I've got a couple from Flektarn and they work fine.
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