Looking for a large bow saw

rapidboy

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I have a Sandvik 24" and a 33" but i need something bigger for a specific job.
Anyone have any ideas for a bigger saw and where to buy ?
 

British Red

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Lawrence. Weaver makes stunning 36" collapsible buck saws with Bahco blades - really very nice indeed. Beyond 3 foot you are really looking at a cross cut saw rather than a bow saw. A good crooscut will cost between £70 and maybe £130 for a 7' one. I ahve a source if you want one - kinda specialised though I know

Red
 

weaver

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I made a few 36" bow saws for friends in the States. The blades are available fro Bahco.com, hopefully you can find a distributer over there. I would offer to sell you one of mine but the shipping would be more than the saw.
 

rapidboy

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Thanks Weaver but i really need it to be bigger than 36"

Any chance of a PM with the contact Red ?
I have a very large tree at home and much as i hate to get rid of it im getting worried about it being so close to the house.
Im a little reluctant to tackle it with a chain saw so im going to take it down slowly and my 33" is just a bit small.
It might work with a fuller frame but it's still a bit on the small side.
Once it's down the chain saw will be fine, i just don't fancy working with it up the tree.
 

weaver

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I took down a very old and partly rotted maple next to my house when we first moved here.

All I had at the time was a 12 inch electric chainsaw. The trunk was 30 inches across. I tied a large rope high as possible on solid wood and tied the other end to my truck. Working slowly and taking small wedges from the trunk I took out enough wood to allow the truck to pull the tree away from the house. There was too much rotted wood higher up to do any climbing so all I could do was try to fell the tree in the safest direction and hope for the best.

Luckily no one got hurt and only one small branch hit the roof causing minimal damage, the small dent is still there in the metal roofing.
 

JonnyP

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Just a couple of things RB....Not too sure if you have the same laws there but check to see if there is a tree preservation order on it. Big fines can incur if you remove a tree with a tpo. I worked for an old lady once who'd long gone husband once planted a fir tree in their garden...Anyway, she decides its too big and gets the guys round to take it down. Turns out there was a tpo on it...No one told her, and she got into all sorts of trouble, including a very angry neighbour....
Second is....Be bloody careful mate...If you need a saw thats more than 3 foot long, it sounds like a serious tree. Get some good advice first...You can cause more problems taking out a large tree next to a house, than leaving it in...Because the ground around the tree is used to having the draw of moisture from it, if you remove the tree the ground can swell more and cause problems to the house. Seek good advice mate....
 

rapidboy

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I don't need a much longer saw, the 33" is just about long enough but the frame is very restrictive.
Alarger bow saw might not be the answer, a cross cut might be the best solution.
It's a massive sycamore that's been out of control for years.
The old people who used to live in the house just let it get out of control in the last few years,it's now twice the height of the house.
I bought the house recently and already own the one next door so no neighbours to worry about.
Im at the top of a hill and catch some serious wind over the winter, if this came down it would destroy the house so it has to de done.
Apart from that the leaves are a bloomin nightmare.
I have taken a fair few tree's down over the years so im happy enough to do it myself.
 

mr dazzler

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Second is....Be bloody careful mate...If you need a saw thats more than 3 foot long, it sounds like a serious tree. Get some good advice first...You can cause more problems taking out a large tree next to a house, than leaving it in...Because the ground around the tree is used to having the draw of moisture from it, if you remove the tree the ground can swell more and cause problems to the house. Seek good advice mate....

He has a point there rapidboy. Your talking possibly many tons of dense wet timber which could fall anyways if you dont know how to take it down you could kill someone just like that. Your right about not using a chain saw did you hear about the bloke as died when a chain saw cut his groin open when it fell on him from up a tre and he bled to death?? I loathe H&S bearaceracy but in some cases H&S does make sense after all. I would get a trained equipped insured reliable pro tree surgeon to take a look and advise, is this job really necessary? His price might not be much more than that of a big cross cut, and if he messes up you can claim, if you mess up your in the ####.
In my present house the previous owner had a massive ash tree felled about 5 year ago. The stump was about maybe 30" diameter. Me and the other neighbour removed it a while back with a jcb. The roots had started to rot, and the ground was all disrupted, which had caused the brick gate post/wall at the front boundary to subside a little (which I was able to stop with the help of a ton or so of concrtete and some rebar in a deep footing below the level of the existing one. My instinct is to keep tree's and there roots away from buildings especially footings, especially when I've seen houses (in France) where theres roots growing along drain's etc Roots aim for drains although maybe plastic ones are more resistant to being broken open? What is your concern about the tre being so close to the house? It might just ned tidying up or crowning rather than felling.
Cheers Jonathan :)
 

Mirius

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You can cause more problems taking out a large tree next to a house, than leaving it in...Because the ground around the tree is used to having the draw of moisture from it, if you remove the tree the ground can swell more and cause problems to the house. Seek good advice mate....

Trees close to houses can be a real catch 22. Leaving them in causes problems but so does taking them out. The tree will have already affected the foundations by drying them out around where it is, possibly causing some subsidence. Removing the tree will allow the ground to re-moisturise which is going to impact the foundations again. Retaining the status quo by pruning the tree is perhaps the safest route.
 

rapidboy

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Im not going to fell it all at once, im planning to take it down a little bit at a time .
It's actually touching the roof of the house in places so it's alreay doing damage but if it comes down it will certainly demolish the house closest and maybe even the one beside it.
It's growing out of the bank of the drainage ditch that runs along a field at the side of my house, it doesn't look very stable and the previous owners had 2 come down year before last at the bottom of the garden , luckily they didn't do ant damage but i don't want to take any chances.
Im quite happy that i can get up into it and just start taking small pieces down , slow but safe.
It's a pity because i quite like the tree but i does need to go.
A farm quite close recently paid £750 to have a large tree removed and they didn't even let them keep the fire wood so im still in need of a big saw :D
 

rapidboy

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I got a couple of new blades for the bow saw's and i set to work.

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About 8 hours over 2 days have most of it down and not so much as a stray leaf touched the house.

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I only used the chain saw to make 3 big cuts bringing it down , the rest was done by hand.
Now it's down the chain saw will make light work of it but i was really impressed with the bow saws, they are seriously capable tools.

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And i have plenty of fire wood for next winter :)
 

rapidboy

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Didn't need the big saw in the end Red but i appreciate your help.
 

British Red

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No probs RB - thats what we are all here for. Gonna have to get me one anyway

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Cos I like em okay :D

Red
 

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