Legalities fo Fishing rods, handlines etc

[mountainm]

But would you believe it even then ? as you clearly think you know and can define the law better !

Indeed I can. The licence for my rod. The rod licence. The licence which gives me permission to fish... with a rod, clearly (through omission) allows me to fish with an assortment of other items. Tomorrow I intend to break the UK perch record with nothing more than a hat stand.

 

[Robbi]

I must admit Mike that you could be right, it does indeed take a certain kind of mentality that ( through omission ) believes that what is NOT listed ( through omission again if you like ) is in fact legal, so cast away with your hat stand young Sir, I will be happy to act as a character witness if you get hauled in front of the beak !

 

[mountainm]

Hurrah! I won't tell you what I catch, which means (through omission) I will catch everything!

 

[Robbi]

Hurrah yourself Sir !

if you don't tell me what you catch, I fear that timeless old expression........A fool and his Omissions are soon parted.....will come into play.

 

[mountainm]

I wonder why they call it a "rod licence" and not just a "fishing licence", Robbi? It troubles me. Indeed it does.

 

[Robbi]

Trouble ye not Sir, higher powers than thee have decreed a law that shall be taken as written ( not including omissions ) by the humble folk of this parish without question or countenance.

Deviation from these simple rules will be punishable by fines or imprisonment, woe betide the egotistical fool that crosses the magistrate with simpleminded argument, he shall have his equipment confiscated and destroyed.

 

[Jack Bounder]

I've had a good read through and also read the reply from the EA.
I will most likely take the video down. .....

It looks like Mike has taken down the video. I should have made the effort to take a look at it sooner

 

[mrcharly]

But Robbi. What if I can't tell the difference between a rod and... say... a carrot? Legally I should be allowed to fish with a carrot because I really can't tell the difference between the two things. Given they're so similar and nothing says I can't fish with a carrot. So my rod licence should technically cover carrots too! I won't believe different until a judge shouts it from a loud hailer.

Absolute nonsense.

As with just about every single law in the land, it is your responsibility to ensure that you know the difference between rod and carrot.

You may as well drink 20 pints, drive a car then claim you didn't know how many pints it took to take you over the limit.

 

[mountainm]

Absolute nonsense.

As with just about every single law in the land, it is your responsibility to ensure that you know the difference between rod and carrot.

You may as well drink 20 pints, drive a car then claim you didn't know how many pints it took to take you over the limit.

LOL. But I've fitted eyes, a reel seat and a nice cork handle!

http://www.carrotmuseum.co.uk/curran.html

 

[Stevie777]

Speaking as a Angler, If i came across a guy using a Hobo Rod for trout on my local River/River's, i would probably ask for a go at it...It's Not like He/She is about to empty the river...
Catching fish with all the gear is hard enough...You might hook a good fish, but landing one would be a challenge with a Hobo Rod.

As for legalities...??? You could argue it. With a good lawyer you might just win it but, No days fishing, by however means is worth the hassle of court appearances and Expensive Lawyers fees...

I guess the Moral of this story is... Dont get caught..
As we say here in central Scotland...Someone keep an edgie

 

[Corso]

A statement by an EA employee is not the law.

Nope your right it isn't however its a fairly good indercation as to what they would consider taking a good hard look at

take the advice at face value or take your chances

very little law is on a stone tablet most is worked out as case law its your chocie if you want that to be you..

 

[WoodGnome]

Well, also within the EA there seem to exist different views on the matter.
I mailed them last week as some of you did. I also attached a photo of the hobo rod and, most importantly, called it hobo ROD - not handline. Today I received a very sensible reply of a nice gentleman basically saying: It's not mentioned in the byelaws... However he advised me to check with the EA office responsible for where the fishing is supposed to take place.

So what does that mean now?

I personally think, that we have just found a grey zone in the fishery law itself. It all depends on whether this thing is regarded as a handline or not and here obviously the local bailiff has the first say in the matter as long there is no definite decision made by a court. However, I'm not the one willing to try out.

@Mike from MCQBushcraft, as we here in a way have troubled you with all of that bickering and you even took down the vid in the result, I'm offering you to send you the same pen fishing rod with reel as a gift my wife is using here (just pm me if you're interested):

It works pretty well, the only thing is that the brake slowly starts to run through at 4.5 N (or kg of fish)...

Regards,
Marc

 

[Man of Tanith]

I think this has gone on long enough now.
handreels are almost certainly illegal as they arent specified as legal to fish with.

Therefore its time to stop quibbling and trying to find possible loop holes.

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