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Massive Quake, Tsunamis Kill Thousands in South Asia
More Than 11,000 Dead in Seven Countries as Tidal Waves Slam Coasts
By DILIP GANGULY, AP



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COLOMBO, Sri Lanka (Dec. 26) - An earthquake of epic power struck deep beneath the Indian Ocean on Sunday, unleashing 20-foot walls of water that came crashing down on beaches in seven Asian countries across thousands of miles, smashing seaside resorts and villages and leaving more than 11,000 dead in their wake.

The death toll along the southern coast of Asia - and as far west as Somalia, on the African coast, where nine people were reported lost - was certain to increase, as authorities sorted out a far-flung disaster caused by the 9.0-magnitude earthquake, strongest in 40 years and fourth-largest in a century.


WHAT HAPPENED?
Thousands of people were killed by tsunami waves in southern Asia Sunday.
WHY?
The waves were caused by an 8.9-magnitude quake, the largest recorded in 40 years.
ABOUT TSUNAMIS:
These tidal waves are set off by undersea earthquakes, landslides or volcanos.
HOW THEY WERE NAMED:
A combination of the Japanese terms for harbor and wave.
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Indonesians flee after flood.
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The earthquake hit at 6:58 a.m.; the tsunami came as much as 2 1/2 hours later, without warning, on a morning of crystal blue skies. Sunbathers and snorkelers, cars and cottages, fishing boats and even a lighthouse were swept away.

Indonesia, Sri Lanka and India each reported thousands dead, and Thailand, a Western tourist hotspot, said hundreds were dead and thousands missing.

''It's an extraordinary calamity of such colossal proportions that the damage has been unprecedented,'' said Chief Minister Jayaram Jayalalithaa of India's Tamil Nadu, a southern state which reported 1,705 dead, many of them strewn along beaches, virtual open-air mortuaries.


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''It all seems to have happened in the space of 20 minutes. A massive tidal wave of extreme ferocity ... smashed everything in sight to smithereens,'' she said.

At least three Americans were among the dead - two in Sri Lanka and one in Thailand, according to State Department spokesman Noel Clay. He said a number of other Americans were injured, but he had no details.

''We're working out on ways to help. The United States will be very responsible,'' Clay said.

The quake was centered 155 miles south-southeast of Banda Aceh, the capital of Indonesia's Aceh province on Sumatra, and six miles under the Indian Ocean's seabed. The temblor leveled dozens of buildings on Sumatra - and was followed by at least a half-dozen powerful aftershocks, ranging in magnitude from almost 6 to 7.3. The waves that followed the first massive jolt were far more lethal.

An Associated Press reporter in Aceh province saw bodies wedged in trees as the waters receded. More bodies littered the beaches. Authorities said at least 4,185 were dead in Indonesia; the full impact of the disaster was not known, as communications were cut to the towns most affected.

The waves barreled across the Bay of Bengal, pummeling Sri Lanka, where more than 4,500 were reported killed - at least 3,000 in areas controlled by the government and about 1,500 in regions controlled by rebels, who listed the death toll on their Web site. Some 170 children were feared lost in an orphanage. More than a million people were displaced from wrecked villages.

The carnage was mindboggingly widespread. About 2,300 were reported dead along the southern coasts of India, at least 289 in Thailand, 42 in Malaysia and 32 in the Maldives, a string of coral islands off the southwestern coast of India. At least two died in Bangladesh - children who drowned as a boat with about 15 tourists capsized in high waves.

The huge waves struck around breakfast time on the beaches of Thailand's beach resorts - probably Asia's most popular holiday destination at this time of year, particularly for Europeans fleeing the winter cold.


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''People that were snorkeling were dragged along the coral and washed up on the beach, and people that were sunbathing got washed into the sea,'' said Simon Clark, 29, a photographer from London vacationing on Ngai island.

In India's Andhra Pradesh state, 32 people were drowned when they went into the sea for a Hindu religious ceremony to mark the full moon. Among them were 15 children.

''I was shocked to see innumerable fishing boats flying on the shoulder of the waves, going back and forth into the sea, as if made of paper,'' said P. Ramanamurthy, 40, of that state.

The earthquake that caused the tsunami was the largest since a 9.2 temblor hit Prince William Sound in Alaska in 1964, according to geophysicist Julie Martinez of the U.S. Geological Survey.

''All the planet is vibrating'' from the quake, said Enzo Boschi, the head of Italy's National Geophysics Institute. Speaking on SKY TG24 TV, Boschi said the quake even disturbed the Earth's rotation.

The quake occurred at a place where several huge geological plates push against each other with massive force. The survey said a 620-mile section along the boundary of the plates shifted, motion that triggered the sudden displacement of a huge volume of water.

Scientists said the death toll might have been reduced if India and Sri Lanka had been part of an international warning system designed to advise coastal communities that a potentially killer wave was approaching. Although Thailand is part of the system, the west coast of its southern peninsula does not have the system's wave sensors mounted on ocean buoys.

As it was, there was no warning. Gemunu Amarasinghe, an AP photographer in Sri Lanka, said he saw young boys rushing to catch fish that had been scattered on the beach by the first wave.

''But soon afterward, the devastating second series of waves came,'' he said. He climbed onto the roof of his car, but ''In a few minutes my jeep was under water. The roof collapsed.

''I joined masses of people in escaping to high land. Some carried their dead and injured loved ones. Some of the dead were eventually placed at roadside, and covered with sarongs. Others walked past dazed, asking if anyone had seen their family members.''

Michael Dobbs, a reporter for The Washington Post, was swimming around a tiny island off a Sri Lankan beach at about 9:15 a.m. when his brother called out that something strange was happening with the sea.

Then, within minutes, ''the beach and the area behind it had become an inland sea, rushing over the road and pouring into the flimsy houses on the other side. The speed with which it all happened seemed like a scene from the Bible - a natural phenomenon unlike anything I had experienced before,'' he wrote on the Post's Web site.

Dodds weathered the wave, but then found himself struggling to keep from being swept away when the floodwaters receded.

On Phuket, in Thailand, Somboon Wangnaitham, deputy director of the Wachira Hospital, said one of the worst-hit areas was Patong beach, where at least 32 people died and 500 were injured. On Phi Phi island, where ''The Beach'' starring Leonardo DiCaprio was filmed, 200 bungalows at two resorts were swept out to sea.

''I am afraid that there will be a high figure of foreigners missing in the sea and also my staff,'' said Chan Marongtaechar, owner of the PP Princess Resort and PP Charlie Beach Resort.

Many areas were without electricity. In Tamil Nadu in India, a unit of the Madras Atomic Power Station was shut down after water entered the plant. The Indian air force planned to drop diesel generators - along with packets of food and medicine - to ravaged areas.

Some 20,000 Sri Lankan soldiers were deployed in relief and rescue and to help police maintain law and order. The international airport was closed in the Maldives after a tidal wave that left 51 people missing in addition to the 32 dead.

Indonesia, a country of 17,000 islands, is prone to seismic upheaval because of its location on the margins of tectonic plates that make up the so-called the ''Ring of Fire'' around the Pacific Ocean basin.

The Indonesian quake struck just three days after an 8.1 quake along the ocean floor between Australia and Antarctica caused buildings to shake hundreds of miles away. The earlier temblor caused no serious damage or injury.

Quakes reaching a magnitude 8 are very rare. A quake registering magnitude 8 rocked Japan's northern island of Hokkaido on Sept. 25, 2003, injuring nearly 600 people. An 8.4 magnitude tremor that struck off Peru on June 23, 2001, killed 74.

(Associated Press reporters Gemunu Amarasinghe in Colombo, Sri Lanka, K.N. Arun in Madras, India, and Sutin Wannabovorn in Phuket, Thailand, contributed to this report.)


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Paganwolf

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Absolute devastation,I have been watching the aftermath from here in Oz, still cant get my head around the magnitude of it, its over the ocean from western australia and folks over here were worried about getting hit on the coast by a Tsunamis wave but the experts say as the coast of W/A is so vast and uninhabited by the time it reached none or no sign would be noticed in the human inhabited area's, with out looking i think it was 8.9 r not much more and the earths crust is torn apart which gives some indication on the magnitude of this quake, there were folks on my plane on the way out here going to Thailand. How scary is nature, man thinks he rules the world then mother nature shows a sign of strength which brings him to his knees. If something of this magnitude was to hit the UK (discussed before in a previous thread) it would be completely flattened and doesn't even bear thinking about.My thoughts today go out to the people affected by this mass destructon who now have to deal with the aftermath and pain of losing loved ones and everything they posess...........a very sobering thought...
 

philaw

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Have you heard a description of the earthquake from a seismologist? There was one on the radio that described this as a sudden 10 metre drop in a 1000km long section of the tectonic plate, that displaced thousands of cubic kilometres of water. I remember in A level geography, hearing about how if something similar happened at the place where two plates meet just off the coast of LA, the wave would hit within a couple of minutes and kill millions.

I for one feel like, for all the tragic loss of life and destroyed communities, which really speaks for itself, it's very encouraging how people have responded. It's alright people saying that we only care because white, western holiday makers where affected, but that doesn't explain the scale of donations from the British people, or the $1bn AUS from the Australian government. The reality is that we're unaffected by it, but thinking of loved ones that have been to Thailand and could have been affected makes it feel much closer than 4500 miles away, and brings the situation to life in a way that no amount of 2 dimensional TV footage could. I think this is all evidence that people really are immune to images of poverty and destruction on TV, and that they realy do feel that these situations are so hopeless that they are powerless to help and makes them not want to waste their time and money being the only ones to give. This calamity has got people moving in such a way that people are instead worried of being the only ones not to give, and not doing their bit in a Dunkirk like success story after a substantial minority got the ball rolling.
 

TheViking

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All I have to say is, forget survival kits and bug out bags, if one of them comes... :shock: It's a matter of luck if one survives and of course to act and not just let things slide!
 

leon-1

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That's the point, that is why they call it a survival situation and not bushcraft, but the very skills that you learn in bushcraft are the ones that will benefit you, your'e familly and those around you should you survive.

Most times you will be looking at luck of the draw as far as who will survive the initial disaster, but it will be your actions in the follow up to the disaster that will minimise the damage and potential for further loss of life.

The chances that you will have the specifics of a survival kit are most unlikely and the majority of the kit that you have and need will probably be scrounged from the ruins of peoples former lives or improvised.

The greatest challenge to anyone is more than likely going to be mental, as getting over the mental trauma in the first place is going to be one of the most difficult things to do and then it will be motivating yourself to get on with it and do what you can.
 

philaw

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In one radio interview I heard with an indonesian, the guy said that he knew how to grow crops, so would retreat into the forest for a while, then come back to the sea when he was ready. I was impressed with his tenacity and adaptability. Maybe he's the ultimate bushcrafter.

I mentioned the possibility of this kind of thing hitting LA, and was thinking about whether it could happen in britain. I think that for serious earthquakes you need lateral movement between the tectonic plates, so that they get stuck as they grind against each other, but the mid atlantic plates are moving apart from each other. That's why the apalachian mountains in the western US were originally the same range as the mountains in Ireland. Landslides can do the same kind of thing, though, and there's supposed to be one of those coming from the azores or canaries (I forgot which) in the form of half an island collapsing into the sea. Let's hope it's not in a hurry to do it.
 

RAPPLEBY2000

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the famous SAS survival handbooks advice just says:

"DO NOT go to look for a tsunami, if you are close enough to see the wave, you are too close to escape it, unless high above its level!"

it continues....

"There is little defence against a moving wall of water, evacuate!"

nuff said! :?:

i think alot of questions will be raised about warning systems how much money was given and why the worlds armies haven't offered to help!

:shock:
 

ChrisKavanaugh

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One of the Canary islands has a very active volcano. The geologic map shows an entire section that could slide into the sea. The volcano has vast quantities of water inside that would act as a pressure cooker. The theory is debateable, the slide could be a very slow reaction or very violent. It would generate a 600' tsunami on the north american east coast. This happened in a small inlet in Alaska, sending a massive walll of water. Amazingly, a father and son survived on their boat. A worldwide warning system will cost a paltry 10 million USD- and a conservative news commentator here has roughled feathers that we might pay for it. We spend more than that in certain overseas adventures before breakfast every day. It's easy to develop a Teotwawki mentality ( I thought that was an Dine' kachina when I got into this field.) Everyone should consider a few simple preparations for emergencies. You don't have to develop a bunker mentality with 10 years of MREs and an arsenal of weapons either. Our species came very close to getting wiped out many times during the Ice age. Disaster is part of our common mythologies: Missing a reindeer migration, watching your world between France and Britain disappear under incoming seas, some new crowd moving in with spear throwers.
 

RAPPLEBY2000

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i guess one major problem with the areas hit is that if a warning had been given, would people have got to high ground or specialised shelters anyway?

some of the countries are very low lying anyway.

could some sort of underground (waterproofed) bunker work? obviously then there is the problem of digging your way out again through tons of sand!

i know in some typhoon areas they have huge reienforced concrete storm shelters a few stories high.

would it be possible to create a hill, or hollow hill with shelter and suplies inside?

i don't know, it's so sad they had no warning at all.
 

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